17 with no clue..

username17km · **Joined:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:55 pm **Posts:** 34

ill be honest i have no idea how to work on any type if car. i got my kj a couple months ago and love it. its my first car and got it for $600 with a shot engine had a family friend put in a used one so now it runs great. i really want to start adding things to my jeep i want to get the most expensive part over with first which i think is getting it lifted. im 17 and dont have a whole lot of money at my disposal but i still want the best lift kit i can get for a 4inch lift. and suggestions? (yes ive been on google, it doesnt help) thanks advance

vincennescrd · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:28 pm

If your 17 and have no money your not going to get a 4 inch lift. Go with some ome springs and the ride improves and you have a lift. Tommudd is great get in touch with him to get you started

cgass · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:41 pm

I'm pretty sure for a 4 inch lift you're going to have to do a suspension lift. That's probably going to run you over $1K, plus installation. I know JBA (http://jeepinbyal.com/) has a 4" lift kit. You could do an OME lift with the HD springs which should yield about 3 inches of lift without a bumper or winch. It all depends on what your budget is.

vincennescrd · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:19 pm

4 inch lift is more than 1k try more like 3k

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:28 pm

First welcome to LOST
Now since you're not in the know with Jeeps and things lets start slowly
if you keep calling your Jeep a "car" you're going to get hassled all along :ROTFL:

Next start saving all you can, this thing is addictive
Now for your lift its been talked to death so if you just read some you'll see the best option is OME springs, 927s front / 948s rear, OME shocks or Bilstiens,both good and ride is equal, have installed them both, with some little extras like a top plate from JeepinByAl, ( top plate gives you 1/2 inch extra lift) a clevis lift ( gives you 3/4 inches more) you can get 3 to 3.5 inches of lift real easy .
Parts will set you back about 725-750 or so
then labor to install Now if you have some like minded owners near by then a lift party may be possible. We've done a ton in Ohio so if you're close you maybe in luck, or some of the other guys scattered across the country have done them as well.
Where to buy
well of course I'm going to say JeepinByAl or AllJs ( boulderbars.com) two of the best companies you can deal with when it comes to KJs
Don't even look at Rustys/ Rocky Road etc
now start your list of questions :wink:

Tom
Sermon is over for tonight

liquidxit2 · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:42 am

Honestly Id wait on lifting and learn about the jeep with maintenance and do some research on how to do a lift. Once you feel confident I would go that route.

Zack A · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:08 pm

Agree with the above post. First spend the money to make sure its sound machincally. Change out front/rear diff fluid, transfer, transmission including filter, check/change air filter.

Also WELCOME TO LOST...you will learn A LOT from the folks here, just make sure you read all the stickys.

OldSkull · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:16 pm

Zack A wrote:

Agree with the above post. First spend the money to make sure its sound machincally. Change out front/rear diff fluid, transfer, transmission including filter, check/change air filter.

Also WELCOME TO LOST...you will learn A LOT from the folks here, just make sure you read all the stickys.

X2

Better play safe and be sure all the mechanics is in good shape first before investing in 'TOY'S" :-)

I may suggest you a cheaper solution since it"s your first "RIG"... Having 17 ,very little money and some hormone peak for the opposite sex can kill your budget... :ROTFL:

Buy just a spacer lift like a Daystar for cheap, if you don't "TOTAL" the Jeep after a year and manage to save some money then you can purchase "The reel thing" :2cents:

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:20 pm

Telling someone to save money and then suggesting buying a spacer lift is well funny
Talk about a waste on a used KJ
:2cents:

He'd still have to buy 4 shocks and the kit so now he's 125-150 bucks from buying a whole spring lift

bgcarl01 · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:15 pm

Tom, I hope you just cut and paste these things, because you must have carpal tunnel by now from typing the same responses over and over.

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:28 pm

irollgen4s · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:24 pm

this is what mine looks like and im 17. its possible, just be smart about everything, and do it right the first time. I personally went with the frankenlift to make it the easiest install, but if i were to do it over again i would have bought everything separately and saved a couple of hundo. I was extremely intimidated starting to work on my liberty only coming from quads and dirtbikes and never doing any major work, but it is actually very easy. You just have to take your time, know the car, and be ready to spend money.

as for lift, go with Tommudds word, he's the lift god. Don't go cheap on your lift, suspension is some of the most important things on cars and should be treated as such.

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:49 pm

username17km · **Joined:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:55 pm **Posts:** 34

thanks for all the suggestion. but i just wanna say when i said i dont know how to work on any car i was not referring to my jeep, id never disrespect it like that. and yes i am 17 but i make a far amount ($15 an hour) and i agree with a lot of you i would rather save up for quality products and take it slow ive done my research on all the things that can go wrong with a lift. But thanks again for the replies and welcome. time to start saving haha

OldSkull · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:02 pm

tommudd wrote:

Telling someone to save money and then suggesting buying a spacer lift is well funny
Talk about a waste on a used KJ
:2cents:

He'd still have to buy 4 shocks and the kit so now he's 125-150 bucks from buying a whole spring lift

How many have just add spacer over OEM suspension? Plenty! They just need a lift look ba-bling nothing more!

Your wright it's a waste if you got the budget and a $15 job, but how many youngster have $15/h job today Tom? He never mention it so I assume he got a summer job! They suppose to be in school at 17! How many youg man "destroy" there first "Rig" before the end of there first year ownership? He paid $600 for it do you thing he need a lift or a lot of mechanical attention first? Why bother anyways!...... Your right Tom go ahead buy a franky and if the rest of Jeep don't fall apart you'r good to go! Well has long your brake work... :roll:

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:56 pm

Well no one said to buy a Franky now did they, putting words in someone else's mouth.
I've seen plenty of very responsible younger guys come on here and ask questions and do the right thing because they want to do it right the first time.
It doesn't matter if he paid 600 or 6000 for it, its still his pride and joy I am sure. And not every young person tears them up in the first year of ownership, I've helped plenty build 4WDs and other cars/ trucks and took great pride in them!
So now that we have that out of the way I'll wait to see what this young man comes up with. I'm sure it will be good !!

Oh even if they never go off road a lifted full spring KJ rides down the road way better than one with worn out suspension

So whats the issue with that anyways ????????? Coming sort of out of left feild there aren't ya?

irollgen4s · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:23 pm

* Have owned/driven my liberty for a year since i was 16 and its still in pristine shape and is getting better every paycheck. generalizing makes an booty out of you.

OldSkull · **Posted:** Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:45 am

irollgen4s wrote:

* Have owned/driven my liberty for a year since i was 16 and its still in pristine shape and is getting better every paycheck. generalizing makes an booty out of you.

It's not "generalizing" It's road statistic direct from the mouth of the two members of law enfocement in my family. Telling me I'm a "booty" is very kind of you, It show the wonderfull young men your gone be when you grow up...

tommudd wrote:

Well no one said to buy a Franky now did they, putting words in someone else's mouth.
So whats the issue with that anyways ????????? Coming sort of out of left feild there aren't ya?

That one make me laft a lot...Since day one Tom you telling every new member the same speach, a member suggest you make a copy and paste of it. Don't tell me now it's not from your mouth please...OME /BILSTEIN/JBA......In the end it's always the Franky style and we both know it! I don't question your knowledge about this your in your field no doub.

Been in transport industrie since 1978 help learn some trick and security concern for me and "Others". Loosing a 16 year old sister in a car accident teach a lesson you don't whant anyone to live...

I wish this young men (username17km) get lucky with his purchase and get no accident or major failliure. Be "Safe" first and you can be "Pride" later...

Best regards.

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:27 am

Used to be in the transportation field myself, was also a mechanic at a dealership, then service manager at another dealership, did time managing and then owning a larve volume tire store
so I know about safety and whats best in suspension etc. Even have the certification for brakes / front suspension from back in 1975
I also know that when a suspension is worn out putting spacers on will cost you more money over time than doing it right and installing a full spring lift will.
I saw what a spacer lift did to the former owner of my front bumper, cost them over a 1000 bucks with new front fenders, new upper control arms, a wheel / tire etc when they wrecked.

username17km · **Joined:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:55 pm **Posts:** 34

Just want to start off by saying thank you tommud for the detailed reply i appreciate it and to Zack A too. To the other guy, i am 17 yes, that doesn't mean i drive recklessly and abuse my renegade. if i just wanted to get a quick cheap solution for a flashy lifted look i wouldnt be on this page asking about the best quality lift i can get.

Anyway, ive decided to double check the safety and durability of my kj first and will put my money into that. Ill refer back to this page about what to check with that. Then i will start the saving for the lift, im just wondering if i do exactly what you said tommud and have a 3 to 3.5 lift with the items you mentioned if i ever wanted to lift my kj more would it be possible to get it an even 4 or even a little more? And ive been told that after getting a lift its important to get new rims that are wider to have a more stable base is this so?

ill be refering back to these replies frequently but probably wont have any new questions until i actually have the money to do these things so basically ill be back in a couple months after saving all i can haha

again thank you for the help i really appreciate it.

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