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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:52 am 
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Where do you get your rotors sleeve84028? Some people say napa is the best, are they all the same? Im still on stock everything and it going good.


I got my rotors from Napa. I don't know if they are all made by the same company though, Napa just had the best price in my area.

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My question is this: If slotted and cross-drilled rotors offer no benefits, than why do the high performance brake companies make them? Baer, Brembo, Wilwood, check their websites, they all make rotors with these features. Wilwood had something interesting to say about cross drilling...


This my friend is all about marketing. Almost all performance gains, I mean major gains, in stopping power come from increasing the size of the rotor.

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However, the same Wilwood discusses rotors with vanes on another page, and said that vanes DO help with cooling. Cross drilled, slotted, vaned, whatever, these are original equipment on some very nice and very functional sports cars. Not just a weekend racer or bracket race dragster, cars that road race or participate in endurance racing. I agree that the recent "bling" factor types have embraced the large, drilled and slotted rotors as glamorous go fast pieces, but surely they must offer some performance benefits that off-roaders (especially vehicles that do double duty as the off-road and daily driver) can benefit from.


The high end cars / ultra performance cars that come with Drilled / Slotted rotor are usually equiped with gigantic rotors from the factory. I mean like 14" rotors. The larger mass of these rotors allows them to have these 'special' brake features. I don't want to sound like I am totally against Slots / or Drill holes in rotors, it is just easy to get confused with all of the marketing out there saying you will see a xx% improvement in stopping distance.

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Taz wrote:

So here is the question that I have that I can't seem to find is why are ceramic pads not recommended for towing?


Is this true?

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Taz wrote:
What breaks do you guys have that you think are weak? Front disk/Rear drum? The breaks in my 2005 are pretty good for a 4000+ lb vehicle, but they are 4 wheel disk, with rear proportioning. Anyone thought of doing a swap to rear disks on a KJ with rear drums? Also are there different size rotors in the different years of the KJ or different models?


I have an 02 w/ Disk + Drum. It stops good enough for me, but I don't try to detach my retina's everytime I step on the pedal. Maybe one day, I will switch over to rear disks but it won't be anytime in the near future.


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So here is the question that I have that I can't seem to find is why are ceramic pads not recommended for towing?



I didn't know that... My pads haven't give me any problems while towing. Do you have a link for this? I'd like to see the reasoning behind it.

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hehehe I was just told by a dealer mechanic that the ceramic pads leave less dust because there is "less friction between the pads and the rotors".... ummm ok them what makes them stop us fairy dust. :roll:

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Bosch says not to use ceramic for towing.


http://www.boschusa.com/AutoParts/FAQs/BrakePads/

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TAZ, thanks for the link. They still don't explain, but I will offer this up? The semi-metallic pads that they recommend don't heat up very much. Maybe BOSCH figures that there is less chance for a warped rotor with the semi-metalic pads? I have been towing my sailboat and other trailer around all last summer without any issues....

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I have seen the note on other web sites about not using ceramic for towing, but none of them say why.

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