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bmg9b · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:52 am

Neatus wrote:

mine is pretty and slow and gets over 30 mpgs... :wink:

I didn't know that rice was an economical alternative fuel source...?

Sport · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:56 am

Neatus wrote:

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Thats cool then .. if its actually a purpose built track car then it definately wasnt designed to be pretty . Sometimes it's actually cooler when a car looks like it would be a joke and turns out being fast as hell.

mine is pretty and slow and gets over 30 mpgs... :wink:

Oooh, I don't know about pretty. There are lots of things I would change on that Del Sol. BTW that is my favorite car, when the jeep is paid off I will be looking to build one.

Northbee · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:57 am

JeeperCreeper wrote:

< Misses Libby

Hey JeeperCreeper - what did you get instead of the Libby?

Skipperb · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:26 am

I got the liberty after I decided to quit speeding I think everyone needs a change. I had a 66 Corvette 283, a 68 Corvette 427 and an 72 El camino 454 and than went to Jeeps 3 Cherokees ,liberty, grand Cherokee, LJ and now wife wants 4dr Jeep cars are nice, but we still use the 2000 S10 when its just me and her.Go figure.

Phadeout · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:06 am

gone_jeepin wrote:

actually the audi A4 with the 1.8T is alot quicker then you think stock!! put about $6000 in it, chip, headers, CAI, exhaust and you will have a super quick car. Another $2000 to upgrade the stock turbo to a T3/T4 turbo and your car will decimate most!!!

Wow, I need to reply to this. Before I bought the Renegade, I wanted a Subaru. I have a friend with a nicely modded Subaru "wagon" WRX, and man is it fun! Here were my 2 problems: First, the Fiance can't drive stick. Which meant the only Subaru's I wanted were '05 and newer with the sport shift. Second: Turbo...

The Subaru's I wanted were 6-10,000 (CDN) more than the Renegade. Now, there is no way I could NOT spend another 6-10,000 in modding the car... Cause it's addictive! So no matter how much better the mileage is, the Renegade is just as useful if not more (as a vehicle) and I won't drop all that extra cash...

So I guess I'm ahead with the Reny... Buying the Reny 2 weeks ago in some way was me performing "self restraint" :roll:

JeepinG · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:59 am

People complaining about crappy Rennie MPG. The reason I bought the Rennie was to get better gas mileage. My 92 4runner with 3" lift and 32s was getting around 10-11. I take tons of kayaking trips every year (at least twice a month, to locations at least 4 hours away) and the MPG on the runner was KILLING me. I just came back from a trip to WV, averaged 20 mpg on the highway loaded to the hilt with gear, and 2 boats strapped to the top. Amazing. I'm quite happy. Find me another capable 4wd that is as fun to drive, has as much clearance (I need it, logging roads, trails, whatever we need to take to get to the river : ) ). A car won't get it.

To each their own, I need this Rennie, it serves a great purpose. Now, I just wish it has as much room to sleep in as my runnner :cry:

Spike6901 · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:59 pm

Yeah, for a 4x4 suv with any kind of offroad ability at all, 20mpg is about as good as it gets unless it is a diesel. With a lift and tires, I get 21 on the highway.

hooperswish · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:43 pm

Where I live (South metro Denver area, Highlands Ranch) we are getting slammed with a late snow storm. Nothing real bad that would need 4x4, but still slick and hydroplaning. I wouldn't think about anything other than a 4by around here for a daily driver. And as far as speed goes, I am old school- give me old (late sixties, early seventies pre emission) Detroit muscle! Now that is something I can sink my teeth into. I prefer meat and potatoes, NOT RICE...To each his/her own. :wink:

SnowgodCCR · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:55 pm

I'm missing the hell out of my last ride latley. I traded in my 2004 Saab 9-3 Aero to get my JK Rubicon, and it seemed like a great idea at the time. 2 months later (and two payments later-the saab was bought outright from the dealer in 2004) and 5500 miles, and I'm second guessing myself something awful. I suppose it will get better when I get back to NH and I get to use the capablity to get around again, but here in the city, I can honestly say that I more or less hate the rubicon. It's a hell of a vehicle, but I don't need to rockcrawl to get around here. I miss my roof racks, I miss my backseats, I miss my TURBO and everything associated with it, I miss the great ride, the incredible handling, and most of all- the quiet comfortable ride.
Now that I've gotten the chance to get the doors and top off the Jeep in comfortable weather, I realize that it's not all that cool. More and more I'm thinking "if my wheels can't get me there, I know that my feet can" and I'm not sure what to do about it...I'll get hosed if I trade the rubicon in (besides the beating that I'll take from my other half for making such a stink about getting the rubicon in the first place) but I feel like I'm getting hosed on the monthly payments anyway- I could have the 2007 version of my Saab for the same payment (but I'd rather have my 2004 back-Saab stuff, you wouldn't understand :wink:

) I don't know what to do...I'll probally tough out the rest of my lease and go back to having a car then...afterall, dirt is what we made backpacking boots for

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I know I'll miss my Rubicon if I get rid of it...not immediatley, but in about 2 months- that's when I start getting "the itch".

Neatus · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:28 am

Sport wrote:

Neatus wrote:

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Thats cool then .. if its actually a purpose built track car then it definately wasnt designed to be pretty . Sometimes it's actually cooler when a car looks like it would be a joke and turns out being fast as hell.

mine is pretty and slow and gets over 30 mpgs... :wink:

Oooh, I don't know about pretty. There are lots of things I would change on that Del Sol. BTW that is my favorite car, when the jeep is paid off I will be looking to build one.

I would change everything about it. I would get rid of the spoiler, I would get a stock sounding exhaust. I would delete all the extra fiber glass and if I had enough money not to care I would run it over with my KJ then go out and buy an old Datsun 240Z or at least trade it in for a real Civic.

I got the car as payment in a settlement and as much as I don't mesh well with its style I get more people asking me about the thing than any of the other 17 cars I have owned.

Oh and once again, I do have to say....I love the gas mileage:) Makes owning the KJ a lot easier.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:37 am

Neatus wrote:

I would change everything about it. I would get rid of the spoiler, I would get a stock sounding exhaust. I would delete all the extra fiber glass and if I had enough money not to care I would run it over with my KJ then go out and buy an old Datsun 240Z or at least trade it in for a real Civic.

I got the car as payment in a settlement and as much as I don't mesh well with its style I get more people asking me about the thing than any of the other 17 cars I have owned.

Oh and once again, I do have to say....I love the gas mileage:) Makes owning the KJ a lot easier.

Did someone say 240z!?

This is my old 240z:

Though I sold it and these days Im pretty much only a z32 guy:

Neatus · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:24 am

Oh Sam, I love both of your cars. I had a 72 240Z and a 77 280Z...a 350Z is on my shopping list this time.

BVCRD · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:51 am

hooperswish wrote:

Where I live (South metro Denver area, Highlands Ranch) we are getting slammed with a late snow storm. Nothing real bad that would need 4x4, but still slick and hydroplaning. I wouldn't think about anything other than a 4by around here for a daily driver. And as far as speed goes, I am old school- give me old (late sixties, early seventies pre emission) Detroit muscle! Now that is something I can sink my teeth into. I prefer meat and potatoes, NOT RICE...To each his/her own. :wink:

I don't know how you do it. Every morning on the tube, they show some roll over where some speeder lost his life. I HATE to go down to Denver. They get a little slick of snow and everyone goes crazy. Can't drive in the stuff.

hooperswish · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:16 pm

.[/quote]I don't know how you do it. Every morning on the tube, they show some roll over where some speeder lost his life. I HATE to go down to Denver. They get a little slick of snow and everyone goes crazy. Can't drive in the stuff.[quote]

Yea, our drivers here can be pretty scary. Do you flyfish? I love to go to Spinney and try for the big ones. Buena Vista is nice... I definitely will move on to someplace quieter when I retire in about 12 years or so. Go Broncos

BVCRD · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:44 pm

hooperswish wrote:

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I don't know how you do it. Every morning on the tube, they show some roll over where some speeder lost his life. I HATE to go down to Denver. They get a little slick of snow and everyone goes crazy. Can't drive in the stuff.

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Yea, our drivers here can be pretty scary. Do you flyfish? I love to go to Spinney and try for the big ones. Buena Vista is nice... I definitely will move on to someplace quieter when I retire in about 12 years or so. Go Broncos

I do fly fish. I go on the upper Arkansas and out of my canoe on some of the higher alpine lake. Cottonwood lake is good. I usually slay them there with a gold ribbed hares ear nymph.

dirtykj · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:08 pm

auggy wrote:

Sometimes it's actually cooler when a car looks like it would be a joke and turns out being fast as hell.

That's why, at one point in time, I thought about owning a souped up twin turbo diesel VW new beetle in bright yellow with sunflower motifs all over

hooperswish · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:14 pm

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I do fly fish. I go on the upper Arkansas and out of my canoe on some of the higher alpine lake. Cottonwood lake is good. I usually slay them there with a gold ribbed hares ear nymph.

That sounds just awesome. Do you just strap the canoe to the top of the liberty and 4X to the lakes? Maybe some day I will try Cottonwood lake. Is it on cottonwood pass? My favorite/most used fly is the pheasant tail. At Spinney I like the callibaetis hatch where I use an epoxy back callibaetis with a copper john. Lotsa fun, lotsa action.

Sport · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:34 pm

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would change everything about it. I would get rid of the spoiler, I would get a stock sounding exhaust. I would delete all the extra fiber glass and if I had enough money not to care I would run it over with my KJ then go out and buy an old Datsun 240Z or at least trade it in for a real Civic.

I got the car as payment in a settlement and as much as I don't mesh well with its style I get more people asking me about the thing than any of the other 17 cars I have owned.

Oh and once again, I do have to say....I love the gas mileage:) Makes owning the KJ a lot easier.

I didn't expect to read that! :lol:

I think the del sol is a fun sporty little car. Yours just needs to be updated a bit, all those extras were cool in the 90's. I would sell all that extra stuff and get yourself a b-series motor. Unless this sol is one of the rare with a b16 in it already.

BVCRD · **Posted:** Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:47 pm

hooperswish wrote:

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I do fly fish. I go on the upper Arkansas and out of my canoe on some of the higher alpine lake. Cottonwood lake is good. I usually slay them there with a gold ribbed hares ear nymph.

That sounds just awesome. Do you just strap the canoe to the top of the liberty and 4X to the lakes? Maybe some day I will try Cottonwood lake. Is it on cottonwood pass? My favorite/most used fly is the pheasant tail. At Spinney I like the callibaetis hatch where I use an epoxy back callibaetis with a copper john. Lotsa fun, lotsa action.

Yea, it's up Cottonwood Pass. Easy to get to. I use the pheasant sometimes. I got the crossbars for the rack and just throw it on there. Strap front, sides and back. I also made some homemade pontoons so the canoe is super stable. Me and my son can both stand up in it and not tip. I don't think it would tip if we TRIED to tip it. Another place I go is Mirror Lake. If you ever do the St Elmo pass trail, the lake is on the west side. You actually have to tight rope the north bank in the water to get pasted. No biggy. Just looks freaky. Also a good primitive campground there.

Neatus · **Posted:** Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:47 am

Sport wrote:

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would change everything about it. I would get rid of the spoiler, I would get a stock sounding exhaust. I would delete all the extra fiber glass and if I had enough money not to care I would run it over with my KJ then go out and buy an old Datsun 240Z or at least trade it in for a real Civic.

I got the car as payment in a settlement and as much as I don't mesh well with its style I get more people asking me about the thing than any of the other 17 cars I have owned.

Oh and once again, I do have to say....I love the gas mileage:) Makes owning the KJ a lot easier.

I didn't expect to read that! :lol:

I think the del sol is a fun sporty little car. Yours just needs to be updated a bit, all those extras were cool in the 90's. I would sell all that extra stuff and get yourself a b-series motor. Unless this sol is one of the rare with a b16 in it already.

I am not going to sink any money into it. I was going to do the b16 swap but honestly just am not a huge fan of the car. If the exhaust was quieter it might change my mind. That will be my 1st mod, a quieter exhuast. Then I might think about the swap....then I would probably love the car:)

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