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Interesting, I checked Moogs catalog and sure enough K3198 fits 02-04 Liberty's
I wonder if its design allows for any more clearance from the spring on lifted applications.
The picture they have for it is this:

Why "poor Al"? The Moog doesn't correct any geometry issues from lifting and isn't servicable, it is a stock replacement. I would buy Al's arms over these any day. Any extra cost is worth the peace of mind of being able to service or replace the ball joints.

Seems many aftermarket items are not made exactly the same as OEM. I was just curious if possibly there was a little more clearance. Stinks its not greaseable but I would take a Moog non greaseable over an OEM any day.

McQuay-Norris makes one also, #FA4092 $176.00 list.

Matt400 wrote:

Is that one OEM? Sure is priced like it. If not anyone know who makes the OEM?

al doesnt have any, I been waiting a week and a half!

$350 for Al's and you get both with greasable MOOG ball joints! They are built for our modified Jeeps to!

Author:	NomadKJ [ Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:01 pm ]
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Dear Ed H, Thank you for your question. The ball joint in this control arm is sealed for life (non-greasable) and isn't replacable as a separate unit. If you need further assistance please respond to this email or call us toll free at 1-866-762-5288. Karl RockAuto Customer Service phone: (608) 661-1376 fax: (608) 836-5694 toll-free: 1-866-ROCKAUTO (1-866-762-5288)

Author:	kolesy [ Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:17 pm ]
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Whats this about????

Author:	JJsTJ [ Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:43 pm ]
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Hmmm.....guess he is just mentioning that the replacement upper arms are not serviceable? Shame Moog hasn't addressed that yet.

Author:	Jeepjeepster [ Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:06 pm ]
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So, moog makes an upper A-arm also?

Author:	JJsTJ [ Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:08 pm ]
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Yes I believe they do. I know there has been an aftermarket one out for a while now. I figured Moog made it but only saw it listed in a Napa catalog.

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Author:	Matt400 [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:09 am ]
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Interesting, I checked Moogs catalog and sure enough K3198 fits 02-04 Liberty's I wonder if its design allows for any more clearance from the spring on lifted applications. The picture they have for it is this:

Author:	MoladoGuy [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:30 am ]
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Matt400 wrote: Interesting, I checked Moogs catalog and sure enough K3198 fits 02-04 Liberty's I wonder if its design allows for any more clearance from the spring on lifted applications. The picture they have for it is this: Poor AL

Author:	JJsTJ [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:04 am ]
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Why "poor Al"? The Moog doesn't correct any geometry issues from lifting and isn't servicable, it is a stock replacement. I would buy Al's arms over these any day. Any extra cost is worth the peace of mind of being able to service or replace the ball joints.

Author:	MoladoGuy [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:01 pm ]
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JJsKJ wrote: Why "poor Al"? The Moog doesn't correct any geometry issues from lifting and isn't servicable, it is a stock replacement. I would buy Al's arms over these any day. Any extra cost is worth the peace of mind of being able to service or replace the ball joints. I thought the question above asked if it was a stock replacement with no other changes...if its just a replacement then ---> Yay! AL! I'm ordering my Upper A-Arms from AL tonight anyway!

Author:	ratmloud [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:07 pm ]
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al doesnt have any, I been waiting a week and a half!

Author:	Matt400 [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:16 pm ]
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Seems many aftermarket items are not made exactly the same as OEM. I was just curious if possibly there was a little more clearance. Stinks its not greaseable but I would take a Moog non greaseable over an OEM any day. McQuay-Norris makes one also, #FA4092 $176.00 list.

Author:	JJsTJ [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:50 pm ]
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Matt400 wrote: Seems many aftermarket items are not made exactly the same as OEM. I was just curious if possibly there was a little more clearance. Stinks its not greaseable but I would take a Moog non greaseable over an OEM any day. McQuay-Norris makes one also, #FA4092 $176.00 list. Is that one OEM? Sure is priced like it. If not anyone know who makes the OEM?

Author:	MoladoGuy [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:42 pm ]
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JJsKJ wrote: Matt400 wrote: Seems many aftermarket items are not made exactly the same as OEM. I was just curious if possibly there was a little more clearance. Stinks its not greaseable but I would take a Moog non greaseable over an OEM any day. McQuay-Norris makes one also, #FA4092 $176.00 list. Is that one OEM? Sure is priced like it. If not anyone know who makes the OEM? $176.00 for OEM replacements? $350 for Al's and you get both with greasable MOOG ball joints! They are built for our modified Jeeps to! ratmloud wrote: al doesnt have any, I been waiting a week and a half! Correct. They are in production and should ship out by the end of next week or so. Labor day vacation will push that out a little to.

Author:	Matt400 [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:05 pm ]
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MoladoGuy wrote: $350 for Al's and you get both with greasable MOOG ball joints! They are built for our modified Jeeps to! That is a better deal then for sure!!

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