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Author:  PCT 1981 [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Gas and Water Cans
This is from another forum. I like the product. Might be able to adapt it for the KJ. I cannot get the picture to post so here is the link: http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/e ... -geri.html
Author:  snowsport [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:54 pm ]
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Thin flat gas cans like that would be great on the roof rack, if the spout is well sealed. There was one posted like that a little while ago.

Found it. http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0049067523167a.shtml

Sounds like the people who are buying them are saying they leak, which is not a good feature for a gas can, or even a water can. Shouldn't be too hard to make a lid that seals well? It's a great design, but with a fatal flaw in manufacturing.

Maybe someone will come up with a better lid for them. :idea:
Author:  jerseykj [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:22 pm ]
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there not really new. they make them for atv's. i've been planning to get a couple to mount to the roof. just waiting to get the chance to go up to cabelas.
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:52 pm ]
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Wow, that is awesome……………………The Expedition version of the Jeri can looks to be leak proof. I like the fact that it can lay flat on the roof rack. In addition, they also are making a water version.
Author:  corwyyn [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:04 pm ]
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dieselenthusiast, the only thing missing from your link was a '.jpg' after the 'geri1'. It's a nice looking can, I may get a couple and mount them on the sides of the roof rack...
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:18 pm ]
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corwyyn wrote:
dieselenthusiast, the only thing missing from your link was a '.jpg' after the 'geri1'. It's a nice looking can, I may get a couple and mount them on the sides of the roof rack...


Thanks Corwyyn! I will most definitely buy a few. This is really an excellent product and gives me a good reason to buy the Gecko so I can mount one on top of the KJ:

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Author:  Sir Sam [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:53 pm ]
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Wonder if they will be making one in yellow for us diesel users?
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:06 pm ]
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Sir Sam wrote:
Wonder if they will be making one in yellow for us diesel users?


That's exactly what I was wondering............................. :wink:
Author:  riptricket [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:35 am ]
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how much would 4 gallos of gas weigh???
I'd think kinda a lot right?
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:48 am ]
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riptricket wrote:
how much would 4 gallos of gas weigh???
I'd think kinda a lot right?


Gasoline is approximately 6.5 lbs at 70 degrees. Gasoline becomes more dense as the temperatures becomes colder and less dense as the temperature increases. They say that you should fill up in the coldest part of the day in order to get more fuel for the same price. So to answer your question:

6.5 lbs x 4 gallons = 26 lbs.

In the scheme of things, the weight is very minimal compared to other weight bearing Jeep accessories.
Author:  Fulltimer [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:31 am ]
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You could always paint one yellow.

Terry
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:52 am ]
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When we lived “full time” at our cabin in the mountains, we lived a long way from a gas station. Due to the absence and inconvenience of a local fueling station, we always kept 10 - 30 gallons of fuel at home. It wasn’t unusual for my wife or I to fill our vehicles, ATV, and tractor from Blitz plastic gas cans weekly, sometimes using them several times a week. We use the 5 gallon Blitz gas cans which weigh about 32.5 lbs when filled with gasoline. I can tell you from lots of experience that having to manhandle 32.5 lbs of fuel and try to steady the can for filling purposes can become wearisome, especially for the wife. So I bought a siphon hose that looks like a pump handle that you would use at a regular filling station. With the siphon hose, all we needed to do was elevate the gas can, pump the trigger a few times and the gas would naturally flow by squeezing and holding down the trigger. This is why I like the idea of having a rack or carrier of some sort on top of the SUV that will carry the fuel or place a bulk can for the transfer process.

In my shop, I used a multipurpose tool cart on wheels to hold my 5 gallon fuel containers. When I pulled my vehicles into the shop, I could wheel the cart around to the vehicle that needed filling. The 5 gallon gas cans were already higher than the vehicle’s filler neck, so all I had to do was open the filler cap and start pumping.

By having a gas carrier that is flat and compact like the 4 gallon can shown above really makes the process convenient for off-roading and less likely to get snagged. In addition, the center of gravity of the gas can is much lower making it more stable and easier to secure on trails. Anyway, that’s my 2 cents.

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This will be my future biodiesel processor. I really like this machine for the simple reason that the fuel can easily be transferred into a vehicle or transfer tank with ease. Also, the wife doesn’t have to hassle with any filling issues.
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Author:  riptricket [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:31 am ]
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so you're makin' your own fuel from the left over oils?
I have always wanted to get a diesel and do that!!!
Cheap, except for buying the equipment and solutions, and fairly easy to do.

When I was at home a couple months ago, I caught an episode of Trucks on Spike, and watched stacey do the biodiesel fuel... man how awesome is that!!!
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:39 pm ]
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riptricket wrote:
so you're makin' your own fuel from the left over oils?
I have always wanted to get a diesel and do that!!!
Cheap, except for buying the equipment and solutions, and fairly easy to do.

When I was at home a couple months ago, I caught an episode of Trucks on Spike, and watched stacey do the biodiesel fuel... man how awesome is that!!!


Yep, my sister’s husband and family own several restaurants that use high-end cooking oil, so I have an endless supply of grease. Not to mention, his side of the family are very environmentally (alternative) minded and really dig the idea that I will be making my own homebrew. Needless to say, they are very motivated to collect all the oil for me. The end result is that I have more cooking oil than I know what to do with, so I will be making the biodiesel and selling it to friends of mine to help pay off the equipment sooner. It’s a win/win situation for me! Plus I feel like I’m contributing to the environment, running better fuel, and helping others out all at the same time. “LIFE IS GOOD”
Author:  InCommando [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:22 pm ]
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Anyone else find it slightly ironic that the maker, Expedition One, touts the product as American made by an American company, yet is marketing it to a crowd driving Japanese vehicles? :?

The reviews on the one Cabelas sells make it look like a very poor product.
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:38 pm ]
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InCommando wrote:
Anyone else find it slightly ironic that the maker, Expedition One, touts the product as American made by an American company, yet is marketing it to a crowd driving Japanese vehicles? :?

The reviews on the one Cabelas sells make it look like a very poor product.


The “Expedition One” is suppose to be a much better built product than the “Cabelas” product. Is the FJ only made in Japan?
Author:  mrkake [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:15 pm ]
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My brother bought one of the Cabela's cans for his ATV fuel. He stored it on his roof and it leaked all over the place. In reading through the thread on the FJ site, it looks like Expedition One did the original design and has been refining the design to address these issues. I will wait for the first round of retail distribution so that all of those FJ guys can be the guinea pigs :wink: . It will be hard to replace the tried and true steel Jerry can though.
Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:45 pm ]
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mrkake wrote:
My brother bought one of the Cabela's cans for his ATV fuel. He stored it on his roof and it leaked all over the place. In reading through the thread on the FJ site, it looks like Expedition One did the original design and has been refining the design to address these issues. I will wait for the first round of retail distribution so that all of those FJ guys can be the guinea pigs :wink: . It will be hard to replace the tried and true steel Jerry can though.


I agree, there is nothing that burns me more than a leaking gas can. The metal cans have a tight thread pattern with a large rubber gasket that seals the cap. As you screw the cap down you can actually feel the cap torque and seal itself. Worse case scenario, I have my backup plan.

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Author:  Inc [ Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:12 am ]
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I use Nato style gas cans and they are friggin great. I got mine at an army surplus store here locally but they are all over online http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ They have never leaked and I keep mine on their side! I will never use another can.
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Author:  JL Rockies [ Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:50 am ]
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dieselenthusiast wrote:
mrkake wrote:
My brother bought one of the Cabela's cans for his ATV fuel. He stored it on his roof and it leaked all over the place. In reading through the thread on the FJ site, it looks like Expedition One did the original design and has been refining the design to address these issues. I will wait for the first round of retail distribution so that all of those FJ guys can be the guinea pigs :wink: . It will be hard to replace the tried and true steel Jerry can though.


I agree, there is nothing that burns me more than a leaking gas can. The metal cans have a tight thread pattern with a large rubber gasket that seals the cap. As you screw the cap down you can actually feel the cap torque and seal itself. Worse case scenario, I have my backup plan.

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I have the same bumper and can an when I pulled up on a curb, diesel spilled out. I ordered one of those NATO cans.
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