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Author:  kjmurphy [ Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:19 am ]
Post subject:  Wheel Spacers on Ebay?

I know there are other wheel spacer topics on the forum, but they haven't seemed to help me much. I've been looking into getting some wheel spacers and i saw some on ebay today. The wheel spacers on Ebay seem kind of cheap (in price) compared to some other wheel spacers on other websites. They have a buy it now for 60$ a set. I have seen some for as much as 140$ per set. They are made of the same materials but they are just so much cheaper on Ebay. Is there a difference? Are they lacking quality? and are they safe?

Link below

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/WHEEL-SP ... 1779QQrdZ1

6 days left on auction

Thanks for any info!

Author:  shak [ Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:44 am ]
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i would not get anything other than the spidertrax ones..............by buying wheel spacers you are putting your life on the line because if they snap, the wheels come off and basically you wont have cntrol over your car. Due to these safety risks, they are illegal in a lot of states. So if it was up to me to put my life and KJ's on the line id pay the extra 50 bux and buy the spidertrax that have been tested and came out proudly

Author:  jpzkj [ Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:53 am ]
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I have a set of those (purchased off Ebay). They seem to be good quality and I had no trouble with the transaction.

If you look in the back of your 4wheeler Mag / Offroad Mag ect...you will see an ad in there from a place called TRAIL SPORT These are the same guys...


Hope that helps...

ps...If you get the 1" spacers you may have to cut your lug studs down so they do not interfere with your rims and allow the rim to seat all the way down ( I had to do this just last weekend...it's not hard just takes a little time)

Author:  Liberator84 [ Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:07 am ]
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jpzkj wrote:
I have a set of those (purchased off Ebay). They seem to be good quality and I had no trouble with the transaction.

If you look in the back of your 4wheeler Mag / Offroad Mag ect...you will see an ad in there from a place called TRAIL SPORT These are the same guys...


Hope that helps...

ps...If you get the 1" spacers you may have to cut your lug studs down so they do not interfere with your rims and allow the rim to seat all the way down ( I had to do this just last weekend...it's not hard just takes a little time)


I notice that you have the rubi wheels in the picture did you get the spacers becuase of the rims? Do I need them when I get the wheels/rims?? I am getting a set in a couple of weeks.

Thanks in advance.

~JUD 8)

Author:  jpzkj [ Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:41 am ]
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Nope...got 'em for this one. One of these days it will actually see the dirt 8)
Till then just a poser mall machine.

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Author:  sleeve84028 [ Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:23 pm ]
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Here is my take on spacers:

Just purchasing a set of spacers and throwing them on is a no-no. The spacer moves the weight of the wheel further away from the load bearing part of the hub. Doing this increases the moment arm, which increases the force applied to the studs and can shear them off. Litterally all of them will be sheared and the wheel will come flying off causing you to crash. Please do not just put spacers on.

To properly install spacers you need to do 1 of two things:

Option 1: When the wheel is off, have longer studs pressed into the hub. The longer stud will give the stock lugnut more area to grip on to and are typically stronger so you reduce the risk of overloading the stock studs

Option 2: Purchase lug nuts that will thread all the way back to the hub (through the spacer) This method again moves most of the clamping loads closer to the hub and the strongest part of the stud to again reduce the shear force risk.

Author:  jpzkj [ Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:17 pm ]
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sleeve84028 wrote:
Here is my take on spacers:

Just purchasing a set of spacers and throwing them on is a no-no. The spacer moves the weight of the wheel further away from the load bearing part of the hub. Doing this increases the moment arm, which increases the force applied to the studs and can shear them off. Litterally all of them will be sheared and the wheel will come flying off causing you to crash. Please do not just put spacers on.

To properly install spacers you need to do 1 of two things:

Option 1: When the wheel is off, have longer studs pressed into the hub. The longer stud will give the stock lugnut more area to grip on to and are typically stronger so you reduce the risk of overloading the stock studs

Option 2: Purchase lug nuts that will thread all the way back to the hub (through the spacer) This method again moves most of the clamping loads closer to the hub and the strongest part of the stud to again reduce the shear force risk.



Did you look at the spacers in question ? If you did....Im surprised at your answer, maybe you don't understand how these work.

These spacers have their own studs pressed into them...they are not just "thick washers" for your wheels.

Author:  CTKJ [ Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:43 pm ]
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I believe sleeve means run longer studs right thru the spacer. This will remove the stress from the spacer back to the hub itself.

Author:  jpzkj [ Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:13 pm ]
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CTKJ wrote:
I believe sleeve means run longer studs right thru the spacer. This will remove the stress from the spacer back to the hub itself.




This is a piece of billet aluminum with 10 holes in it. 5 of these holes have studs pressed in them...the other 5 holes go over you existing lugs . There is NO need for longer studs at all.

Longer studs woud acutally get in the way if mounted in the axle flange...if mounted in the spacer they would server no purpose at all!! With the 1" spacer you need to shorten the existing studs as it is.

I see you have 1.25" spacers...what kind did you get ?

Author:  CTKJ [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:26 am ]
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e-bay, they are very good quality. I haven't had any trouble with them, but I do question their stability. When I say longer stud, I mean right from the rotor thru the space and thru the tire.

Author:  jpzkj [ Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:32 pm ]
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I give up...

Author:  sleeve84028 [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:41 am ]
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I didn't say that you can't use the wheel spacers, I just mentioned what can happen if you don't use them correctly. I'd rather not run them on any of my vehilces and was expressing my concern.

Why are you giving up?

Author:  CTKJ [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:34 am ]
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Sleeve, I understand your point. I guess I couldn't explain it to JPZKJ clearly enough.

Author:  jpzkj [ Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:35 pm ]
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ok..this is my last try.

You guys understand that these spacers are not just spacers...right ?

They replicate your existing wheel studs...there is no use/need for longer studs in any way.

The "spacer' attaches to your existing lugs with "low profile" lug nuts which are included. Then there are another set of lugs that are pressed into and through the spacer in the same pattern as you exsiting studs. They pass through 1" , 1.5" 2" worth of billet aluminum and then your wheels attach to them. You might actually have to trim your factory lugs so they don't interfere with the rim mounting flush to the "spacer". T here are a total of 10 lugs per spacer (your existing 5 that attache the spacer to the axle and the new 5 that attached the wheel to the spacer)

you get that...right ?


so there isn't that whole " longer wheel stud....weakness' thing you guys have been talking about.

There is the fact that the wheel is now 1 - 2 inches outboard of the original design of the vehicle which adds stability in a wider track...and some extra stress to the flange of the axle. But your lug stude are no longer (and possilby shorter than stock if you have the 1" spacer that requires slight trimming)

Author:  off2gofishing [ Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:59 pm ]
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I had a set of those from them on for over two years on my TJ... no problems what so ever. Of couse that was on a SFA, not sure if it would cause undue stress to the IFS.

Author:  sleeve84028 [ Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:10 pm ]
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jpzkj wrote:
you get that...right ?


Ah, yes.... sort of / or exactly like a hubcentric (hub extender) design. I just have this image of Mustang I know with "just spacers" losing his wheel while going down the interstate. And yes it really was a friends car, not mine....

Author:  off2gofishing [ Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:13 pm ]
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Those from eBay are built to really tight tolerences... at first I didn't think they fit right because they fit so precisely.

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