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Author:	CoopaTroopa [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:47 pm ]
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So i plan on doing from the beltline of my jeep and below in bed liner for a little cooler appearance problem is i dont know which brand to go with... spray on dupicolor or the roll on hurculiner??? please help as I plan on doing this over the weekend. Thanks guys!

Author:	Xodius [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:57 pm ]
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Honestly, you will get about 50 posts or more saying go Line X and forget about it! However, I have looked at both those and while I have only used the spray on. I used it on some old Gerry cans I have. I sprayed them last summer and so far they are holding very well with no fading but I do keep them in the garage. From what i have read the Herc can be a bit of a PITA because it runs, I did not have the problem with the spray and I hate spray painting. I always gets runs or get a ton of over spray, lol. If you can afford it the Line X is a great product but can be a bit costly depending on where you are. I asked about getting the skirt, front and rear bumpers done on my KJ and they were saying around $1100. Granted that is with them prepping it and everything else but I enjoy doing things on my own so chances are I will use the spray when I do mine. As I am typing this I am thinking the spray I used was the Under Coating spray which could possibly be different than the Duplicoat. I can take a pic and post it if you would like. I can post it in about 6-7 hours.

Author:	callaway [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:16 pm ]
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I used hurculiner on the floor of the cj. Applied via 3" wide paintbrush and didn't have any issues with laying it down.

Author:	03CDKJ [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:30 pm ]
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Supposed to be a high of 50 this weekend in Fayetteville, if your location is right. I wouldn't spray or brush anything on your KJ until it warms up.

Author:	tjkj2002 [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:35 pm ]
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I used this stuff........................ http://www.uschem.com/index.cfm?page=productDetail&id=125&pid=2 Needs a special gun($20) and a compressor with at least 14cfm output,UV protectant,and a lot better then those cheap bedliners(herculiner and such) but alot cheaper then LineX. Oh and originally did my beltline,flares,and bumpers when it was under 30 degrees outside(non-heated garage) and 9 years later it's still look new.

Author:	CoopaTroopa [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:57 pm ]
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So how much would the gun and everything run me up haha

Author:	tjkj2002 [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:59 pm ]
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CoopaTroopa wrote: So how much would the gun and everything run me up haha When I did my aftermarket bumpers and roof rack it cost me $220 for the kit and gun.One kit is 4qts sprayable and is more then enough to do the beltline.

Author:	CoopaTroopa [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:09 pm ]
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How do I get a compressor? And where do I buy? I didn't see a link on the site to purchase

Author:	tjkj2002 [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:13 pm ]
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CoopaTroopa wrote: How do I get a compressor? And where do I buy? I didn't see a link on the site to purchase Gotta call to find a local place that sells it.The compressor is on you,needs to be a good one and those start out in the $1500+ range for a compressor that puts out over 14cfm of air at 90psi.

Author:	CoopaTroopa [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:19 pm ]
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ok so now that i know temp is not an issue how do I prep for this? i assume i just sand it up a little and tape... but you guys know more than me

Author:	Liberty02sport [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:30 pm ]
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Main thing is to make absolutely sure there are no contaminants on the surface after prep or it causes problems with it sticking. Might want to check at an auto paint supply store and see what they recommend as a degreaser that won't attack your paint or linger to cause issues with the liner sticking to the surface. Rubbing alcohol (90% concentration) on a rag is usually a safe bet.

Author:	CoopaTroopa [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:43 pm ]
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Ok so basically I'm looking at taping, sanding, and wiping down with alcohol for safety... I saw another post that talked about tack cloth? What does that mean?

Author:	tjkj2002 [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:46 pm ]
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CoopaTroopa wrote: Ok so basically I'm looking at taping, sanding, and wiping down with alcohol for safety... I saw another post that talked about tack cloth? What does that mean? Are you doing the flares and bumbers? If so do you have a Limited or Sport? There is alot more prep involved with the textured gray Sport trim then the smooth/painted Limited trim.

Author:	CoopaTroopa [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:53 pm ]
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I plan on leaving the fenders and bumpers grey. I have an 03 sport. I want to keep them grey to match the stripe on the skirt and my door handles when I finally pull all that fake chrome off haha

Author:	tjkj2002 [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:59 pm ]
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CoopaTroopa wrote: I plan on leaving the fenders and bumpers grey. I have an 03 sport. I want to keep them grey to match the stripe on the skirt and my door handles when I finally pull all that fake chrome off haha Okay then just tape off with high grade automotive masking tape(yes there is a big difference in masking tapes).It's best to use those brown ScotchBrite pads(80 grit) for best prep,just hit enough to leave some deep scratches and there is no shiny surface left.Then clean off with Dawn dishsoap,then dry really good.Re-mask and clean again with 3M's wax/grease remover with lint free cloth..Totally cover any area you do not want the bedliner,very important.

Author:	surfRenegade [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:29 pm ]
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I used Rustoleum spray on for my bumper and I love it. Im going to do the fenders with it next. As far as prep work I just washed it off with soap and water then lightly sanded to rough it up a bit. then wiped clean with a cloth Also sprayed it below 40 deg. Dont recommend this! Mine ended up turning out great but at the cold temperature it doesnt spray on as easily and tends to blotch a little

Author:	Kingmick217 [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:40 pm ]
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Herculiner... Prep work is paramount.

Author:	03CDKJ [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:22 pm ]
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Troy may know SFA's but he doesn't know bedliners..... Why would you tell someone with no experience to go get a paint gun and a $1500 air compressor... Especially when it is a Permanent Application. You have painted before... I'll be an ugly color But you have experience and equipment... This pretty much sums it up.... (FOUND BY SEARCHING BEDLINER) First of all, the man behind the gun is a huge factor in sprayed bed liners. Don't get hung up on a name brand. There are low- and high-quality applications in any brand you choose. Rhino Linings - One of the first (but not the first) companies to do sprayed bed liners in North America. They use a cold, low pressure system to apply 100% polyurethane. Their chemical isn't the greatest. In fact, it's far from it. For general use in truck beds, it's adequate. For heavy use/abuse it's too soft. The chemical seems to fade & chalk much quicker than some others. It's a relatively slow setting formula that makes uniform thickness difficult if not impossible. Line-X - This is a hot, high pressure application system. The advantage over the "Rhino" system is faster setting formula and better control of material thickness. Their formula is more brittle (poor elongation) than some others. Super-fast gel time nets a dull appearance and sandpapery texture. Still, of all of the "national brands", this is one of the best systems. This is why they added line-x with Kevlar Speedliner - If there ever was a misnomer this is it. This is one of the most primitive application systems. They use a low pressure batch mix (solvent based) that's extremely flammable and very slow to set. Plan on your truck being out of commission for days. Due to the extremely slow cure,the operator cannot control thickness worth a darn. The finish looks primitive and the application is usually very thin due to the relatively high cost of chemical. Herculiner (and most other do-it-yourself kits) - This is a do-it-yourself Speedliner, basically. You're paying $100/gallon for this stuff! What you'll end up with is a super-thin "bed liner" that looks like you did it yourself. Don't waste your time or money! Bed liner "spray bomb" - If it's in a rattle can, it's paint! Do you realize how many cans it will take just to cover the bed? Do the math. Don't bother. WORKMANSHIP - Many compainies take short cuts in preparation. BAD IDEA! We hand-sand and abrade all surfaces, then do a chemical wipe before spraying. Attention to detail is EVERYTHING! Bottom line: A hot, high-pressure system is the best application method. Polyurethane/polyurea hybrid chemicals are the best formulas. Choose an applicator based on what you've seen of their actual applications. Don't put much credit in their "display" model. Look at the edges closely. Look for drip and sags. Look for anything that's not perfect! Go get it done by a professional... Like Troy!

Author:	CoopaTroopa [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:37 pm ]
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ok... so my friend gave me a kinda cool idea! What do you guys think about bed lining the gas door... I think it would look pretty cool with the contrast of gold and black? VOTE?

Author:	tommudd [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:48 pm ]
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NO

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