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Author:  greggmig [ Mon May 23, 2011 4:25 pm ]
Post subject:  control arm bushings worn?
I was checking the front rotor runout on my 2005 lib crd today and noticed when I had my son put his foot on and off the brake the upper and lower control arms moved a good 1/4'' to the rear at all four bushing points is this normal? I had the vehicle up on jack stands and had it in four wheel drive with the front wheels off and it in drive.
Author:  RED_KJ_666 [ Mon May 23, 2011 5:45 pm ]
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I've replaced the upper bushings once, I noticed when I took it apart for the SFA that the lower arms where loose which would have explained that clunk I could never track down up front.
Author:  Fulltimer [ Mon May 23, 2011 7:48 pm ]
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I have a bad lower bushing right now.

Terry
Author:  greggmig [ Tue May 24, 2011 11:08 am ]
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I guess my question to all is should there be front to back play in all of the control arm bushings both lower and upper?
Author:  BugginKJ [ Tue May 24, 2011 11:13 am ]
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Should they flex or deflect? Yes. 1/4" play or deflection is too much. Time to change them out.
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Tue May 24, 2011 11:19 am ]
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BugginKJ wrote:
Should they flex or deflect? Yes. 1/4" play or deflection is too much. Time to change them out.


Somewhat agree,they will flex and the lowers can flex as much as 1/4" and be 100% normal but the uppers should not flex much more then about 1/8" at most.As long as they are not cracking or torn they most likely do not need to be replaced right now.

I replaced my LCA's due to being torn from offroading/flexing and being brand new OEM they have about 1/4" total deflection brand new.It was easier and far cheaper to get whole new LCA's with the bushings already pressed in.
Author:  Xodius [ Tue May 24, 2011 3:43 pm ]
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tjkj2002 wrote:
BugginKJ wrote:

I replaced my LCA's due to being torn from offroading/flexing and being brand new OEM they have about 1/4" total deflection brand new.It was easier and far cheaper to get whole new LCA's with the bushings already pressed in.


You can say that again. I replaced my bushings and it was a royal PITA to find someone in this town to press them. One guy broke his press :banghead: and he recommended another shop and they had them done in about 20 min. It is a PITA but new LCAs here in my valley are around 1100 each! Yeah no kidding. The bushings were 119 and it cost another 120 to press them. Plus 3 days of running around trying to find someone to press them and 3 days of getting yelled at by the mother in law...priceless. LOL.

Oh and the bushings I got are Moog. There are a couple of cheaper ones out there but why mess with it time and time again. With these new Moogs in I am not planning on doing the work for another 130k...God willing. LOL
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Tue May 24, 2011 4:46 pm ]
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Xodius wrote:
tjkj2002 wrote:
BugginKJ wrote:

I replaced my LCA's due to being torn from offroading/flexing and being brand new OEM they have about 1/4" total deflection brand new.It was easier and far cheaper to get whole new LCA's with the bushings already pressed in.


You can say that again. I replaced my bushings and it was a royal PITA to find someone in this town to press them. One guy broke his press :banghead: and he recommended another shop and they had them done in about 20 min. It is a PITA but new LCAs here in my valley are around 1100 each! Yeah no kidding. The bushings were 119 and it cost another 120 to press them. Plus 3 days of running around trying to find someone to press them and 3 days of getting yelled at by the mother in law...priceless. LOL.

Oh and the bushings I got are Moog. There are a couple of cheaper ones out there but why mess with it time and time again. With these new Moogs in I am not planning on doing the work for another 130k...God willing. LOL

Wow they incresed in price,I replaced my LCA's in '07 and they ran $450 for the pair from the dealership.They wanted $50 each for each bushing(3 per LCA) and $1100 per LCA to install said bushings($2200 total for both sides).So I bought one bushing and the special Chrysler tools designed to remove/install those bushings($150),broke the tools in 30 seconds and ordered new LCA's 5 mins later.After breaking the tools designed to remove/install those bushings I fully understood the dealerships pricing for replacing them,basically they set the price so high to discourage it as it's more headache then anything else.
Author:  Xodius [ Wed May 25, 2011 4:08 pm ]
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TJKJ, It might be Vegas pricing. Darn near everything here is a good 40%-500% higher than anywhere else. I like to blame the Californian's. :) No Offence JJ. :)
Author:  greggmig [ Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:01 pm ]
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sorry guys I have not been on line recently. According to what your saying there is a little play in ths bushings. I cant comprehend why there is so much allowable play. How can an alignment be preformed with all that play?
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