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 Post subject: Anyone change their own diff gears?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:45 pm 
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I have done this before, but not on a jeep. Anyone have access to the specs?? Pinion preload rotating torque, end bearing cap bolt torque, specs on backlash, maybe the recommended shim starting points???
I ordered by gear set through JBA, do they include these instructions???
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:50 pm 
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most of us have had a shop do it. there's so much that can go wrong with install. especially backlash. the shops will most likely warranty the work done and if anything breaks (as in how the hardware was installed) its on them.

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I do gears in my own Jeeps, but the FSM should have all the specs you want. Start there

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone change their own diff gears?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:12 am 
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4x4kayak2112 wrote:
I do gears in my own Jeeps, but the FSM should have all the specs you want. Start there


dumb question, but what is FSM?


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Kkjess wrote:
4x4kayak2112 wrote:
I do gears in my own Jeeps, but the FSM should have all the specs you want. Start there


dumb question, but what is FSM?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:38 am 
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If you have experience and the know how to do it, then power to you. I don't mess with gears and trannys. There's too much to mess up and go wrong. I'd rather pay a pro and get a warranty on them.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:43 am 
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I think there's a link to the FSM in the noob guide. I have done my own gears. You might have to get a couple of Chrysler specific tools, like the one for the rear end that goes down the axle tube to tighten that disc that I can't remember the name of. The fronts are more strait forward.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone change their own diff gears?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:55 pm 
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Used to work in a Ford dealership and also a couple of private shops, did all of the gear work back then
Anymore, I'll pay someone else to do it, then if there is a problem they have to take care of it :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 1:12 pm 
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I too worked in a shop, spent 13 years working as a dealership tech for GM. I feel fairly comfortable doing the swap, but still would feel better about having all the factory specs.
If I cant find them, than I guess I'll just pay to have the work done. There are 3 shops located close to my area that specialize in offroading.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone change their own diff gears?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:19 am 
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Here's specs for a 2008. Shouldn't change much though. Keep in mind you'll need a special tool for the rear bearing preload adjuster. OEM gears are marked with the pinion depth in thousandths to give you a starting point for the shims.



REAR AXLE

DESCRIPTION

SPECIFICATION

Axle Ratio

3.21/3.73

Differential Case Flange Runout

0.076 mm (0.003 in.)

Differential Case Clearance

0.12 mm (0.005 in.)

Ring Gear Diameter

213 mm (8.25 in.)

Ring Gear Backlash

0.12 - 0.20 mm (0.005 - 0.008 in.)

Ring Gear Runout

0.12 mm (0.005 in.)

Pinion Torque To Rotate - Original Bearings

1 - 2.2 N·m (10 - 20 in. lbs.)

Pinion Torque To Rotate - New Bearings

1 - 3.4 N·m (10 - 30 in. lbs.)





TORQUE

DESCRIPTION

N·m

Ft. Lbs.

In. Lbs.

Differential Cover Bolts

41

30

-

Bearing Cap Bolts

135

100

-

Ring Gear Bolts

122

90

-

Pinion Nut Minimum

285

210

-

Pinion Mate Shaft Screw

26

19

-

Axle Damper

61

45

-

Adjuster Lock Screw

26

19

-





FRONT AXLE SPECIFICATIONS



DESCRTIPTION

SPECIFICATION

Axle Ratio

3.21/3.73

Ring Gear Diameter

186 mm (7.33 in.)

Ring Gear Runout

0.12 mm (0.005 in.)

Ring Gear Backlash

0.12 - 0.20 mm (0.005 - 0.008 in.)

Pinion Torque To Rotate: Original Bearings

1 - 2.2 N·m (10 - 20 in. lbs.)

Pinion Torque To Rotate: New Bearings

1.7 - 2.8 N·m (15 - 25 in. lbs.)

Total Torque To Rotate is Pinion Torque To Rotate plus:

Gear Ratio 3.21

0.53 - 0.87 N·m (4.6 - 7.7 in. lbs.)

Gear Ratio 3.73

0.45 - 0.75 N·m (3.9 - 6.6 in. lbs.)



TORQUE

DESCRIPTION

N·m

Ft. Lbs.

In. Lbs.

Ring Gear Bolts

108

80

-

Differential Bearing Cap Bolts

54 - 68

39 - 50

-

Drain Trough Nut

23

-

200

Differential Cover Bolts

19 - 26

14 - 19

-

Pinion Nut

217 - 352

160 - 260

-

Rear Axle Bracket Bolts

88

65

-

Front Axle Brackets To Frame Nut

61

45

-

Front Axle Bracket to Axle Nuts

61

45

-

Right Axle Bracket Nut

61

45

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone change their own diff gears?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:54 am 
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Preload adjuster, that's it. Best to weld up your own as they are way too much when you can cut the head off of the right sized bolt and weld it to a long rod...

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone change their own diff gears?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:06 am 
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Thanks for digging up that info ajohns1288


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