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I'm with the others that suggested to keep your head in the books as much as possible. It's especially important during your freshmen year. It's so easy to get distracted, particularly when you're taking a bunch of stupid required classes that have nothing to do with your major.

What's your major? Mine was studio art (drawing, painting, computer art, photography, etc.) and I also went to a small school (Morehead State U in Kentucky). If I had it to do all over again, I would have taken every stupid required class in the first couple years (with one or two art classes mixed in). I made the mistake of leaving a bunch of those worthless classes 'til the end of my under-grad career and regret it because I had less time to focus on my artwork.

Oh, and keep away from the parties as much as possible during the week (or at least when you have classes the next day).

The rule is 'only party on days with r in them'... Thursday, Friday, Saturday (spelling it out, since you ain't college edumacated yet). Although at Ohio Univ. where I did my graduate work, the line to get into the bars on a Tuesday night would wrap around the block. Partying is much better when you're a junior or senior.
Oh, and I fooled around as an undergrad and put off physics until my senior year... then lucked out and snagged a physics for non-science majors, taught by an astrophysicist whose first words were - we're going to skip all the math proofs, but if you want to argue, we can go to the chalkboard and I'll prove it... otherwise, let's just discuss the concepts. Coolest class I ever took. Doing Theory of Relativity as an art major!

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Oh, and I fooled around as an undergrad and put off physics until my senior year... then lucked out and snagged a physics for non-science majors, taught by an astrophysicist whose first words were - we're going to skip all the math proofs, but if you want to argue, we can go to the chalkboard and I'll prove it... otherwise, let's just discuss the concepts. Coolest class I ever took. Doing Theory of Relativity as an art major!


Hey that's cheatin. :shock: My niece asked me to help here with her high school physics last year. I sat down with her one night and started working the trig out with her for a chapter on forces. She sat there patiently for about 20 minutes. Then she stopped me and said, "I don't need to know how to do it, just to understand how it works" :shock: You see she goes to a performing arts high school.

As an engineer it was difficult for me to explain it without doing the math. :oops:

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I'm with the others that suggested to keep your head in the books as much as possible. It's especially important during your freshmen year. It's so easy to get distracted, particularly when you're taking a bunch of stupid required classes that have nothing to do with your major.

What's your major? Mine was studio art (drawing, painting, computer art, photography, etc.) and I also went to a small school (Morehead State U in Kentucky). If I had it to do all over again, I would have taken every stupid required class in the first couple years (with one or two art classes mixed in). I made the mistake of leaving a bunch of those worthless classes 'til the end of my under-grad career and regret it because I had less time to focus on my artwork.

Oh, and keep away from the parties as much as possible during the week (or at least when you have classes the next day).

The rule is 'only party on days with r in them'... Thursday, Friday, Saturday (spelling it out, since you ain't college edumacated yet). Although at Ohio Univ. where I did my graduate work, the line to get into the bars on a Tuesday night would wrap around the block. Partying is much better when you're a junior or senior.
Oh, and I fooled around as an undergrad and put off physics until my senior year... then lucked out and snagged a physics for non-science majors, taught by an astrophysicist whose first words were - we're going to skip all the math proofs, but if you want to argue, we can go to the chalkboard and I'll prove it... otherwise, let's just discuss the concepts. Coolest class I ever took. Doing Theory of Relativity as an art major!


Nice find on the ToR class for non-science majors! Man, you found a good one there! My under-grad book said I had to take "one grad level science class" so I kept flipping the pages until I found a high-level class called "Science of aviation." I learned to fly and got that goofy requirement out of the way in one swoop!

That's brings up a good suggestion to under-grad classmen...don't automatically take the lowest "level" class you can to get past an non-major requirement. My science of aviation class was three pages past the first "grad level" class that would have satisfied the requirement.

Also, find out as much as you can about the instructors before signing up for even the "simplest" of classes (non-major and major alike). I took Comp 101 in my first freshman semester and failed it because of the teacher. I found out 1/4 through the semester that the teacher was the Dean's wife and a real hound if you didn't write about butterflies and flowers. She wouldn't even grade my final paper where I wrote a first-person narrative about a mafia hitman. I took Comp 101 the next semester with another prof and he was one of the greatest teachers I ever had. He asked me at one point (after reading/grading two of my papers), "I have to ask you something....you FAILED Comp 101 last semester?!?!?!" I told him who my "teacher" was and he said, "Oh, that's why."

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Oh, and I fooled around as an undergrad and put off physics until my senior year... then lucked out and snagged a physics for non-science majors, taught by an astrophysicist whose first words were - we're going to skip all the math proofs, but if you want to argue, we can go to the chalkboard and I'll prove it... otherwise, let's just discuss the concepts. Coolest class I ever took. Doing Theory of Relativity as an art major!


Hey that's cheatin. :shock: My niece asked me to help here with her high school physics last year. I sat down with her one night and started working the trig out with her for a chapter on forces. She sat there patiently for about 20 minutes. Then she stopped me and said, "I don't need to know how to do it, just to understand how it works" :shock: You see she goes to a performing arts high school.

As an engineer it was difficult for me to explain it without doing the math. :oops:


Well, I will say that it was a very beneficial class... as a visual artist, it informed my understanding of light and how light behaves (or misbehaves), and I was perfectly willing to believe someone that understood the math could do the proof.

We all have our functions in life. Nothing wrong with being an engineer. Unless it comes down to matching colors, coordinating layouts, etc. Then it's time for someone like me to take it... otherwise it looks like it was done by - umm - an engineer.

And dogparty, that's a good point. Profs aren't totally in a world of their own (well, sometimes they are)... be forewarned, if you come to one and present yourself as an interested student, you better be prepared to follow through on it... but it will be among the best classes you'll ever take.

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Thanks for all of the help guys! I just moved in today, I have everything unpacked, so of course the first thing on the list is LOST. I will definately stay focused with school, it's why I'm here right? And definately continue working out to prevent the F15. Still pretty excited. Because it's in the mountains, I have seen so many lifted Jeeps. All of the offroading buddy potential.

And about the Michigan comments, they are crazy about that here. There are still T Shirts about it all over the place. Go Mountaineers![/quote]

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We all have our functions in life. Nothing wrong with being an engineer.


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Different people learn differently. But I would say the biggest key to success is to go to class. All of your classes. Every day. And pay attention when you're there. Most instructors will be testing you primarily on what's been taught in class, not so much on textbooks.

But I have to (respectfully) disagree with the people who say that you should study every day. I think that's overkill for most classes. If you go to class, and you pay attention while you're there, you'll know most of what you need to know. Of course you study for exams. But no need to fry your brain every day.

If you start to fall behind, or you're just not "getting" a particular class, look for help sooner rather than later. Ask questions in class or talk to the instructors during office hours if you don't understand something. Most of them will be really glad that you're interested enough to try to understand it. Don't be afraid to look stupid.

A good education teaches you how to think, not what to think or meaningless dates and figures. Don't obsess about details when you study. Understand concepts. In a European history class, say, you're a lot better off knowing what "appeasement" was and why it didn't work than you will be if you waste time and brain space memorizing the date the Munich agreement was signed.

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Thanks jeepskate, some very wise information coming from that. I will do my best.

On another note, I went overkill on my partying this first night. Classes don't start until tuesday, so it's not too bad. However, I got a little too crazy and lost my keys. :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Hmmmm.... college advice....

-Take cool electives that have nothing to do with anything you're studying. I wound up becoming a critical care paramedic for a living because I took an EMT class for fun while I was finishing up my degree in marketing :lol: I also took other classes like: knife making, welding, various automotive classes, fencing :lol: , etc. and can't put a price onthe stuff I picked up there...

ok I could have lived without the fencing class :lol: :roll:


-Don't party your first year of college into oblivion... It's easy to do (I did it), it was fun, but paying back the extra year's loan isn't fun at all :shock:

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Get one of those caribeaners to clip onto your belt loop.
Thats what I do and I have never lost my keys.
Sometimes they get stuck in the cracks of like benches and stuff but you'll feel a tug and you'll know.

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I used to do that, I've also had lanyards and such. No good can come from drinking I have concluded. So now the Jeep must sit until I get my spare from home.

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Different people learn differently. But I would say the biggest key to success is to go to class. All of your classes. Every day. And pay attention when you're there. Most instructors will be testing you primarily on what's been taught in class, not so much on textbooks.


thats true, except for the other 50% of the time when its strait out of a textbook and your time spent in class is usually spent reading the paper or working on homework for other classes.

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Different people learn differently. But I would say the biggest key to success is to go to class. All of your classes. Every day. And pay attention when you're there. Most instructors will be testing you primarily on what's been taught in class, not so much on textbooks.


thats true, except for the other 50% of the time when its strait out of a textbook and your time spent in class is usually spent reading the paper or working on homework for other classes.


I had only a couple of classes like that. Where'd you go to school? Mine was San Diego State.


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Different people learn differently. But I would say the biggest key to success is to go to class. All of your classes. Every day. And pay attention when you're there. Most instructors will be testing you primarily on what's been taught in class, not so much on textbooks.


thats true, except for the other 50% of the time when its strait out of a textbook and your time spent in class is usually spent reading the paper or working on homework for other classes.


I had only a couple of classes like that. Where'd you go to school? Mine was San Diego State.


x2... most of my classes were open discussion and whatnot during class and the booklearning was done on your own time. Tests were always on the book material as opposed to class material.

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These next 4 years are going to set you on the road of your life.
If you party too much, don't study and skip classed, you'll end up working at a fast food joint.
If you stay home, study your butt of and go to class, you'll end up owning a few restaurants.
There is a fine line these days between the 2.
Make alot of friends. Do alot of networking. You won't believe how it will help you later on.
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I FOUND MY KEYS!!! Yes. I must have been more "out of it" last night than I thought. My room is 603, and the guy in room 623 found my keys in his door :shock: . No more drinking that much for a while.

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One thing too.. make sure you pay your tuition on time.. Otherwise they are going to hunt you down and literally drag you to court in order to get their money then they will take your hard earned check and also your tax return not to mention put a lean against your vehicle to get the rest.. :shock:

I personally will never return to a University thank god my college I attend now will allow me to get my Bachelor's in History.. Then I can go on to a Baptist College to get my ministry degree.. Never again will I go to a university though unless it's absolutely required.. The best advice I can give you is this: Always read your college Text books because even if you know what they are talking about it's always good to refresh your memory and some of it may be new to you. Also I recommend taking Liberal Arts and Science classes for Humanities and Electives.. For my Humanities class I have American Popular Music and I have Music Appreciation which is like so easy it aint funny.. Then for my Electives I'm taking Anthropology, Early Western Civ and Intro to Old Testament.. (Learning Hebrew which is a plus!) My biggest class has 22 people so I'd also recommend trying to get smaller class sizes as you tend to learn more.. 8) just saying since I've been there and done that.. My history class had 500 people in it and boy..

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