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Author:  warp2diesel [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Hackers uncover more corruption with Global Warming

http://politics.slashdot.org/story/09/1 ... les-Leaked


Make Al Capone look honest?

Legitimate Science welcomes review, Political Agendas only show what they want to show.

Author:  Tokyojoe [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:08 pm ]
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To be or not to be................locked........that is the question



Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of disprized love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pitch and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.

Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:15 am ]
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Without saying too much, I would like to say “Thank You” to warp2diesel for posting a legitimate “off topic” thread about something that is definitely “responsible”. :wink:

Author:  durangotang [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:48 am ]
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*crickets*

Author:  Diggerfreek [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:47 am ]
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durangotang wrote:
*crickets*


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Author:  dieselenthusiast [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:55 am ]
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Author:  David Jr [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:39 pm ]
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I've been saying for a while now global warming is a hoax. It's nice to see this come out :D .

Author:  Budke [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:04 pm ]
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Global warming isn't a hoax, its real.
But we aren't causing it. The earth temperature naturally fluxuates and it drastically changes every like 25k years or so.

Author:  Diggerfreek [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:10 pm ]
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Budke wrote:
Global warming isn't a hoax, its real.
But we aren't causing it. The earth temperature naturally fluxuates and it drastically changes every like 25k years or so.


Not to get in tot this to much, but yesterday I saw the temp up in Alaska was -40 degrees BELOW average :?

Author:  Tokyojoe [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:41 pm ]
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http://www.9news.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=127513&catid=346

Author:  warp2diesel [ Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:25 am ]
Post subject:  One of the documents the hackers got

One of the documents my son downloaded from the Hackers postings

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Sounds like a well executed scam to me.
Create more Government agencies who do nothing more than dream up new taxes for politicians to try to pass.

Author:  Boiler [ Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:35 am ]
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Only thing I get from this is "well executed". Having a plan and understanding your audience is just being smart, regardless if you're trying to stop polar ice melt or "Create more Government agencies who do nothing more than dream up new taxes for politicians to try to pass."

Author:  jeepskate [ Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:29 pm ]
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For the sake of the conspiracy lovers out there, I hope there's better stuff than that in there. I'm sure not going to sift through it all, but the stuff posted above looks like perfectly normal strategic planning for any PR campaign. I didn't read every word, but I didn't see anything illegal, immoral or unethical in it. Beats me why so many people get all worked up over the global warming issue. No one can dispute that the earth is getting warmer. The evidence is everywhere. You can argue about whether it's caused by humans or part of some natural cycle of climate change, but what's the point? If you think that SUV haters are misguided and that people who drive Jeeps are not to blame for global warming, I agree. But that doesn't mean global warming is a hoax.

Author:  Boiler [ Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:04 pm ]
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What I don't get is why people are so adamant that it is not real. There should be a degree of uncertainty on the subject in any clear headed persons mind. I'm not 100% sure of anything. That said I think the safe bet is to "tread lightly" in this world, and do what we can to pass it on to the next generation in a condition at least as good as when we found it.

Author:  candpliberty [ Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:18 pm ]
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Boiler, I agree. What if there is climate change going on caused by all the industrialzation in the last 100 years. Can't we figure the theory is right and start cleaning up some of this mess? We recycle, use CFL's, reduce our cooling and heating, try to go green. Though we drive a gas pig, we are conscious of our driving habits, plan our outings to use the least fuel, maintain our vehicles. What's wrong with that?

Author:  ATXKJ [ Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:25 pm ]
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Nate tends to have a good analysis

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Jones is talking to his colleagues about making a prettier picture out of his data, and not about manipulating the data itself


http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/11/i-read-through-160000000-bytes-of.html

oh yeah and
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Incidentally, 2009 is shaping up to be the 5th warmist year on record, according to the conspiracists at NASA.

Author:  Boiler [ Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:49 pm ]
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Yep, thousands of scientists and policymakers all out to raise taxes so that they can have jobs.

I don't doubt some people would do things just to keep / create jobs for themselves, but if I was doing research and my findings came back that I didn't need to research the subject anymore, I would publish them accordingly and look for another research subject. I wouldn't gather 1000 other researchers and all contrive a plan to milk the US people for money and further research. Some might, but obviously most people are basically good, genuine, and wouldn't join the conspiracy.

Author:  Tokyojoe [ Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:37 pm ]
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It is not just the USA. It is world-wide.

This warming is all leading to Dec 21, 2012. The alignment of the galaxy. I still want to know how the Mayans could have figured that out since it only happens about every 26,000 years. They did not have telescopes to study the stars better. Well, that's another story.










By the way....I'm kidding about this leading to 2012. Just testing and proding ya'll.

Author:  durangotang [ Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:00 am ]
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Author:  Boiler [ Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:08 am ]
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LOL tin foil hat area....I don't care who that's aimed at, it's darned funny :D

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