I mean REALLY in charge.

In 2010 I had been asking about LJS 2011 for months and no one seemed to care. A mod moved the topic from one section of the forum to the other but nothing happened. For the first time in a long while there was no LJS... a shame really. LJS 2010 was a disaster with a mod volunteering to be in charge, couldn't get over himself when help was offered and then bailed and vanished completely from the scene. LJS 2009 was heralded as a big success despite some hurt feelings on the front range leaving Durangotang to shoulder most of the work. Even when Durangotang offered his help to put on LJS 2010, he was also ignored by "admins".

When it became obvious to me that no one was going to step up I took it upon myself to put on an event which we called "Pastafari". Durangotang and I did a lot of planning but when he had to go to Afghanistan, I ended up doing all the work. Despite my best efforts I still had to stay on the sideline due to butt-hurt whiner mods (and some admins) who can't get over themselves for the greater good of Pastafari. Even though it was 100% my event, I knew that if my name was involved we would never have an events section so the mods were Durangotang and Yellocoyote. For those in "middle management" what have you done to make LOST a better place? It's certainly not keeping posts straight... the CRD Forum is unreadable anymore.

So now that Pastafari is in the record books, I'm happy to say we had 100% attendance and no interweb drama. Why did the event have perfect attendance when LJS of the past did not? My guess is organization, presentation and lack of bad attitude.... something to learn there I am sure. People signed up early and stayed signed up... and most of them would do it again next year if it was presented in an intelligent and entertaining manor.

My goal for Pastafari 2012 is to have it be part of LJS 2012 as an overnight trail ride like Moose used to host when he was involved. Some people will sign up for day rides some will want to overnight. I've no confidence in many of the mods here (I don't think many of them even show up anymore) so I am appealing to whoever owns this place and still cares about LOST days gone by. Do we want to let the greeners be rocks in the road because they hate JL Rockies? Or do we want to put on an epic event for 2012? I eagerly await your response (no PM please, against my policy).

Thank you sir. I don't want to compete with LOST but I am concerned that personalities and hurt feelings are getting in the way of progress. I've been a member of LOST since 2007 and I've attended every LOST event there has been which is more than I can say for the few who dislike me so much. It became a personal mission of mine to save a tradition of Liberty events when no one else cared. If I'm wrong, if I've done something to be banned by bringing this issue to light then so be it. I would caution those however that a lot of people who cared stopped coming to LOST long ago and there are only a few left. LOST was once filled with true enthusiasts and now middle management has driven many of them away due to their self-serving attitudes.

I still say that LJS can be revived in 2012 if the people who can't get over themselves go be king on their little mountains and make room for those who can get the job done. It's not too late to get on course before LOST begins to auger in... just sayin'

LOST has never promised annual events or “safari's” that I know of. I’m not a mod, so I don’t know the extent of their responsibilities and duties. Due to a struggling economy and lack of communication from LOST, I would encourage you to move forward with your planning. After all, Jayme is a mod therefore she can help represent the “LOST” side of things.

Lost has become what JKJ used to be to me "The other site".
I was here mostly for fun but when that started to fizzle(and get banned), I decided to use this site mostly for it's wealth of knowledge and supersmart diesel-heads.
I can't afford to get canned from this place so now I takes my funny elsewhere.
DE is right, times are tough and having get togethers should be entirely up to us LOSTers, not mods and admin.

I think all JL needs is a large grass shake and a pb&j and he'll be fine.

Thanks for adding but you've completely missed the point. You're fear if offending a mod and getting banned proves my other however.

As for the Diesel Section... I hear they sacrifice squirrels in there

We just try to keep this site family orientated

OK waited long enough...

...end of sermon

Look at the history of this forum. Look at the history of the LOST KJ events at Moab and who ran that. LOST KJ West, if I rememebr. That was a regional group that just happened to have a lot of the original mods/Admins in it because most of them were the first ones around on here. It was their regional group that organized everything, not them being the mods/admins. They had a strong group that was able to get things done. Their family/friends got involved too. Most of the old guard is gone. No strong groups taking the lead. Economy. The loss of the original KJ. Same location. Many factors leading to nobody jumping on the bandwagon to help with a national/international event. It definitely helps to have the people in close proximity to each other so they can meet often and hash out the plans and see where they are at throughout the planning stages.