Rattlesnake to Heartbreak/Pontiac This Saturday, 25th

JJsTJ · **Posted:** Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:43 pm

I know it is late notice but a group from MJR needs a leader to get them through Rattlesnake and onto Heartbreak/Pontiac and then into Big Bear.

I am SICK of the dang desert heat so I am heading up there AGAIN!!

(any excuse works for me)

This Saturday, the 25th. It will be an early run, meeting at the Chevron station at the 18/247 junction or nearby at around 0700-ish and heading to the trailhead shortly thereafter to meet up w/ the group from My Jeep Rocks. (www.myjeeprocks.com)

as long as I don't encounter any problems or weekend overtime I will be there.

IF YOUR NAME IS ED V. and YOU DIDN"T MAKE THE BIG BEAR EVENT, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY SHOW UP FOR THIS RUN!!

Kaneto · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:00 am

I'll be there if my jeep is back from the shop before then. I'm supposed to hear from the dealer on Thurs.

EDIT: Looks like the new heads will be in on Thurs, so they're hoping to have it ready on Friday. It's gonna be close. I'll try to make it, but since it looks like Heartbreak will be a no-go, I'm not gonna mind missing another run of Rattlesnake already. Plus I was going to do a Cleghorn to Pilot Rock to Willow Creek scouting run for some friends this week, which might have to be postponed till next week anyway.

Edvalencia · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:27 am

Dang it JJ!!!
It's Andrews B-day on Saturday. I'll be at Knotts all day.

There must be a vast left wing conspiracy to keep me from going wheeling :cry:

doug · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:46 am

75% ok, i'll let you know by friday.

doug

Burchie · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:22 pm

JJsKJ wrote:

IF YOUR NAME IS ED V.

that name sound familiar.

He has long hair and drive a red KJ, right?

macgyver · **Posted:** Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:47 am

JJsKJ wrote:

I know it is late notice but a group from MJR needs a leader to get them through Rattlesnake and onto Heartbreak/Pontiac and then into Big Bear.

I am SICK of the dang desert heat so I am heading up there AGAIN!!

(any excuse works for me)

This Saturday, the 25th. It will be an early run, meeting at the Chevron station at the 18/247 junction or nearby at around 0700-ish and heading to the trailhead shortly thereafter to meet up w/ the group from My Jeep Rocks. (www.myjeeprocks.com)

as long as I don't encounter any problems or weekend overtime I will be there.

IF YOUR NAME IS ED V. and YOU DIDN"T MAKE THE BIG BEAR EVENT, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY SHOW UP FOR THIS RUN!!

JJ and All........

Count at least me in for saturday. I'll be at the Chevron Station at 7:00am ready to roll......

Also as a side note I made a call to someone of importance in the FS this morning and the trail is OPEN still and until something on the ground changes, we are good to run it. It could be at least a year before anything happens up there. Yes it is being *considered* for wilderness area, but it's not done yet. If you want more info call me and I will share what I was told this morning about things

PS. JJ give me a call today when you get a chance

Burchie · **Posted:** Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:43 pm

I'll meet you guys at the trail head. Going to stop in Beaumont to drop the kid off at grandma's place.

doug · **Posted:** Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:37 pm

i'll be there!

carroll952 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:33 pm

Cindy and I will be there.

JJsTJ · **Posted:** Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:37 pm

Please chime in here> http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/calen ... =2007-8-25

If you get a chance tonight.

Kaneto · **Posted:** Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:53 pm

Well now it looks like the jeep wont be ready until Wednesday, so I'm definitely out for this run.

Burchie · **Posted:** Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:25 am

JJsKJ wrote:

Please chime in here> http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/calen ... =2007-8-25

If you get a chance tonight.

I like that RSVP thing. Can we get thhat?

doug · **Posted:** Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:39 am

sorry, i'm out for tomorrow. my cv boot just went bye bye! just dropped it off at the dealer.

maybe next time,
doug

fermill403 · **Posted:** Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:57 am

Am I going to be the only KJ there?

Duh I just read the rest of the post. To answer my own question.
NO

JJsTJ · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:24 am

Doug. You Killed on those trails yesterday. Great driving. You did the KJ proud and opened some more eyes. (of course I expected no less from you....I heard about you on John Bull) :wink:

JJsTJ · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:04 pm

This was another great trip up Rattlesnake canyon then to Heartbreak and on into Big Bear. The springs in rattlesnake cyn were running a little more than on previous trips but still no more than a trickle. This trail would be Great in the cooler months with some rain or water running through the canyon. We had 15 (IIRC) vehicles run through Rattlesnake and then 10 made the trip onto Heartbreak.

Here are some more pics I snapped. Hopefully others wil post up some of theirs.
Most of the tral is spent inside a nice canyon setting.

There are several small, rocky sections that provide some entertainment and challenge to the less set up vehicles.

Though we ran Heartbreak, I will refrain from posting pics of the signage or trail in order to keep from causing any controversy about the trail. It was explained to us by a NFS rep that it IS slated for eventual closure but the plan for that area has not been finalized and until it is it remains an open trail. I really wish that it could remain open forever as it is a great area and trail and since it is adopted and used I do not understand why it can't remain open.

What can we do as a group to fight this? What can we do as a group to fight future trail closures? Somehow I do not think that the Big Bear area is getting the proper amount of support from us and the trail use/access orgs to keep it all open. I think that eventually we are going to lose more of OUR trails.
(FWIW, I am already a member of BRC, CA4WDC, AZ4WDC, and other orgs)

carroll952 · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:40 pm

Looks like you all had fun. Wish I could've made it but I was pretty sick yesterday morning :cry:

Rattlesnake canyon would definatly be fun when it's wet.

Justin

fermill403 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:53 am

JJsKJ wrote:

Doug. You Killed on those trails yesterday. Great driving. You did the KJ proud and opened some more eyes. (of course I expected no less from you....I heard about you on John Bull) :wink:

Thanks JJ. I had ablast being the only KJ with all the BIG JEEPS on heart break. The guys over at MJR posted pics of that trail. I think you should go ahead and post up too. Here is the link to MJR
http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/showt ... 245&page=6

doug · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:25 am

just picked up my car from the dealer, it wasn't just the cv boot that went bye bye. p/s and rack n pinion went too. all covered under the warranty! that's a first.

Rattlesnake to Heartbreak/Pontiac This Saturday, 25th

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