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Author:  KJ04 [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Wellsville Turkey Run aftermath.
Great turnout Tom, you missed out on a good run.
I'm guessing 20+ rigs showed at the reststop not including the Hall Of Fame group that we never even crossed paths with that hit the trail earlier.
We split into 3 groups at the trailhead, Terry took a group, Jason took a group, and I took the LOST group. The trails were on the slick side but mostly manageable except for the steeper grades. Everyone experienced the Wellsville grease right off the get go. We spent close to an hour just getting up the second grade on the way in. I almost opted to turn the group around and take a bypass to the playground, but the LOST guys held there own, sliping and sliding in and out of ruts on the way up, myself included. And mind you, this was one of the easy trails!

I hope everyone is a little wiser from there experience today, as it will aid you all in your next bout with Wellsville.

I'll let the rest of the guys tell there versions of the run and keep you in suspence for awhile longer. :lol:

Someone in Terry's group having a bad hair day.
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Hall Of Fame pic from today.
Does this spot look familar guys, we ate lunch there.
Yeah, and Mitch was so dying to do this obstacle too, I think he would have faired much better than this Bronco did.
Sturgis can be very unforgiving at times :roll:

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Jason, leading his group and giving them an example of what not to do :?: ....... Or, Jason breaking in his new Jeep on it's maiden run :?: ...... :lol: This was part of the hold up on the second grade.

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jerbacher was getting bored, so he decided to blow his front housing for some excitement.
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Author:  Jeepjeepster [ Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:01 pm ]
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aww dude, that sucks..

What happened?
Author:  jerbacher [ Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:08 pm ]
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Jeepjeepster wrote:
aww dude, that sucks..

What happened?


its just like he told it. i was bored, and needed some excitement.... :lol:

seriously though, the usual... spinning tires, sudden traction, shock torque, crack...
Author:  Jeepjeepster [ Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:15 pm ]
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Just saw the thread with all the pics.. Sry about that..

You dont have a locker, right?
Author:  jerbacher [ Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:21 pm ]
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right, no locker. if i had one in the rear, maybe i wouldnt have spun out. but, who knows. i'm pretty sure KJ04 had lockers front and rear when he broke his.
Author:  meh_kick [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:47 am ]
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jerbacher wrote:
right, no locker. if i had one in the rear, maybe i wouldnt have spun out. but, who knows. i'm pretty sure KJ04 had lockers front and rear when he broke his.


Even with my rear locker, I had a lot of spinnage (no, not spinach). I think that when yours popped, your truck had almost no momentum (right? I think you tried a bump, but was coming down), while the others were still bumping UP that ledge.

Any luck finding a housing yet? Or better yet one with 4.10s for a Christmas re-gearing?
Author:  jerbacher [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:10 am ]
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meh_kick wrote:
jerbacher wrote:
right, no locker. if i had one in the rear, maybe i wouldnt have spun out. but, who knows. i'm pretty sure KJ04 had lockers front and rear when he broke his.


Even with my rear locker, I had a lot of spinnage (no, not spinach). I think that when yours popped, your truck had almost no momentum (right? I think you tried a bump, but was coming down), while the others were still bumping UP that ledge.

Any luck finding a housing yet? Or better yet one with 4.10s for a Christmas re-gearing?


Yeah, I found a housing with 50k on it for $250. Thats actually the whole assembly, of course, not just the housing, so its a drop out, drop in installation. 4.10s would be sweet, but I dont really have the money right now to spring for the extra cost of regearing the rear. So, new 3.73s it is... :(
Author:  meh_kick [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:30 am ]
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That sounds like a deal. As long as the 50K weren't all in 4wd. :wink:
Author:  KJ04 [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:48 am ]
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meh_kick wrote:
jerbacher wrote:
right, no locker. if i had one in the rear, maybe i wouldnt have spun out. but, who knows. i'm pretty sure KJ04 had lockers front and rear when he broke his.


Even with my rear locker, I had a lot of spinnage (no, not spinach). I think that when yours popped, your truck had almost no momentum (right? I think you tried a bump, but was coming down), while the others were still bumping UP that ledge.

Any luck finding a housing yet? Or better yet one with 4.10s for a Christmas re-gearing?


What gets me is, Alex came up in front of Jon and made it with his BFG AT's. As you can see from the pictures, there was nothing dry for the tires to suddenly bite and grab traction, his tires were just spinning.
I came up in 2 nd. gear with a moderate throttle, hit the hump and my momentum carried me right over it.

Hey Jon, might be a good idea to get a front diff. colar for this housing.
Author:  FastTRX [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:58 am ]
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jerbacher wrote:
meh_kick wrote:
jerbacher wrote:
right, no locker. if i had one in the rear, maybe i wouldnt have spun out. but, who knows. i'm pretty sure KJ04 had lockers front and rear when he broke his.


Even with my rear locker, I had a lot of spinnage (no, not spinach). I think that when yours popped, your truck had almost no momentum (right? I think you tried a bump, but was coming down), while the others were still bumping UP that ledge.

Any luck finding a housing yet? Or better yet one with 4.10s for a Christmas re-gearing?


Yeah, I found a housing with 50k on it for $250. Thats actually the whole assembly, of course, not just the housing, so its a drop out, drop in installation. 4.10s would be sweet, but I dont really have the money right now to spring for the extra cost of regearing the rear. So, new 3.73s it is... :(

What a deal!! Glad to hear you got real lucky!!

I got mine for $400 and it had around that number of miles. I thought I did dang good... :shock:

I too was surprised it wasn't on a rockier section (or from what I could tell from the pics taken)...I was on pure rock when mine grenaded. :? Ah well...crud happens I guess...
Author:  Jeepjeepster [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:00 pm ]
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It could just be a flaw in some of the housings. Ive got to say Ive beat the snot out of my front diff on some trails around the house. I was going up a steep dry hill once with tons of baseball size rocks laying loose. I almost had it to the floor in 4low the entire way up the hill with it bouncing like crazy. I thought for sure the front diff was going to pop but I didnt have a choice. I went down the hill and it was a dead end, and I was alone. It was only a 30min or so walk back home though so I wasnt worried about spending the night there or anything.

I had the locker at the time too.
Author:  meh_kick [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:28 pm ]
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KJ04 wrote:

Hey Jon, might be a good idea to get a front diff. colar for this housing.


heheh.
http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... hp?t=26926
Author:  jerbacher [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:30 pm ]
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yeah, who knows exactly what caused it or what i could have done differently, but its done now.. :roll:

i'm gonna pick up the diff saturday morning and get some seals and oil from the dealer. i'm just kinda at a loss right now as to where to do this repair, and when.
Author:  jerbacher [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:02 pm ]
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just called up my local dealer and ordered the lube, RTV, pinion seal, and 2 axle seals. should be good to go!
Author:  tommudd [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:49 pm ]
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i'm gonna pick up the diff saturday morning and get some seals and oil from the dealer. i'm just kinda at a loss right now as to where to do this repair, and when.[/quote]

OK I will go pick up a dolly and tow your butt over here so you dont have to worry about it! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Just throw all the parts in the rear and I will call ya in a few weeks after I take it to Fla and back to check it out good!
Author:  jerbacher [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:52 pm ]
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, I will be using a dolly wherever I do it. And my moms 4.7L GC. I just wasnt sure how much I wanted to tow it all the way to Toledo. But, it's certainly not a bad option. And, I like your garage... :wink: :lol:
Author:  tommudd [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:14 pm ]
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But if you bring it over then I wont be able to drive it for two or three weeks testing it out for ya! :wink: :roll: :lol: :-)r
Author:  meh_kick [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:35 pm ]
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If you all do this at Tom's garage, I may make a trip of it. I'd like to lend a hand and learn a bit about replacing one of these suckers if it ever happens to me (or anyone else Midwest for that matter).
Author:  tommudd [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:56 pm ]
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Wonder how long it takes 4/5 hours I am just guessing here??
KJ04 how long did it take you to do yours?
Just curious, have to do some research, but with 2/3 people working on it should not be too bad.
Yes I want to see how it goes so when I get the 4.10 one here :twisted:
Author:  KJ04 [ Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:35 pm ]
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I did mine over a two day period. Pulled it apart the first day and took my True Trac out of the old and installed it in the new one along with new axle seals, sealed it back up, and then reinstalled on the 2nd. day. I'm guessing about 8 hrs. total taking my time. I did have help on the 2nd. day to lift it up in place and get the bolts back in.

With two people wrenching I'd guess 4/5 hrs.
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