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 Post subject: Re: Hard to find noise -- clinking and clanking
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:57 am 
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layback40 wrote:

Flooding is an issue with a levee bank on a neighbor's place needing work.
Those with wetlands & swamps are happy as they are not so flooded. No big deal.
When I have water over drive, only 10" at worst, no one comes down drive complaining about the runoff from my place.

Slow progress with the jeep, WW is helping with good information! No ground on the MAP is current problem. I hope I dont need to send the ECM out for work.
At least yours is only mechanical now!

Just saw a couple videos about land slides on steep mountains with heavy rains. Hope you're not near any steep slopes, but it may be a way to fill in the low spots.

I'm still waiting on parts to ship for my beast. They're expected to go out on the 25th. I'm starting to look around for an alternative source in case my suspicions come to fruition.

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Noise in front axle or 3rd member - removed loose chain in transfer case.
Rebuilt engine - replaced #3 cylinder, piston, valves, head repair. Removed EGR.
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Just saw a couple videos about land slides on steep mountains with heavy rains. Hope you're not near any steep slopes, but it may be a way to fill in the low spots.

I'm still waiting on parts to ship for my beast. They're expected to go out on the 25th. I'm starting to look around for an alternative source in case my suspicions come to fruition.

Dean.

The landslides are in the high country, about 2 1/2 hrs from me.
Not the first time. Have had landslides following bad fires in the past.
The vegetation holds the hillsides together.
It has cut off some great camping places.

I just sent a message to an ebay seller about some things I am purchasing.
Been over 2 weeks since I ordered & paid yet has not been posted.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:46 am 
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I am never buying from JEGS.com again. Their parts prices are fine, but their shipping is ridiculously expensive. I purchased 3 parts on Oct 30.

Front axle bearing: $12.99 FedEx Priority $49.34
Front axle shaft: $89.99 FedEx Priority $56.94 -- Not yet shipped
Front axle seal: $7.99 FedEx Priority $34.35

Crown Automotive is crap.
Dean.

JEGS' supplier (Crown Automotive) first said they'd ship on Nov 11, then on Nov 25, now they're saying Dec 8. Several resellers are offering the same Crown Automotive front right side Intermediate drive shaft for $85 to $105, but none have it, and all say it will ship from the manufacturer. Other resellers are offering the same part (Mopar) for $250 to $285, but I just don't want to pay that much. So I put the beast together today with the old, sloppy intermediate shaft and the new bearing made a difference. Problem is there is still a clunk in the right drive line.
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Unfortunately I put the wrong new CV half shaft in which I think is the source of the clunk. I do have another new one that I'll have to put in soon. The beast is drive able as long as I listen to the clunking.
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Getting this far, I treated myself to a cigar and a glass of Spiced Rum. Amazing how that makes a soul feel better.

Next week I'll swap the half shaft and hopefully be completely on the way.

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100,000-mile service.
Replaced harmonic balancer.
Noise in front axle or 3rd member - removed loose chain in transfer case.
Rebuilt engine - replaced #3 cylinder, piston, valves, head repair. Removed EGR.
Sheared bolts on TC. Replaced flex plate, TC, bolts.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:40 am 
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CaptainDean wrote:
Unfortunately I put the wrong new CV half shaft in which I think is the source of the clunk. I do have another new one that I'll have to put in soon. The beast is drive able as long as I listen to the clunking.
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Dean.

Been wondering if these parts are the correct parts. The Mopar p/n is 05066022AA and an upgraded p/n is 52111780AB.
The length is 28.1 inches.

I'll check both parts next time I have them out and side by side.

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Changed Turbo.
100,000-mile service.
Replaced harmonic balancer.
Noise in front axle or 3rd member - removed loose chain in transfer case.
Rebuilt engine - replaced #3 cylinder, piston, valves, head repair. Removed EGR.
Sheared bolts on TC. Replaced flex plate, TC, bolts.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:37 pm 
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CaptainDean wrote:
The Mopar p/n is 05066022AA and an upgraded p/n is 52111780AB.
The length is 28.1 inches.

I'll check both parts next time I have them out and side by side.

Dean.

I've never been able to make the Donald Duck flustered sound, but that's how I feel. While doing research for half shaft axle length, I'm getting all kinds of answers. Even the parts I have are different lengths. None are as long as 28.1" for the 52111780AB replacement part number.

Axle shaft A compressed: 23 7/8", extended: 25 even. Span: 1 1/8", middle length: 24 7/16" (+/-9/16).
Axle shaft B compressed: 24 3/8", extended: 26 3/8". Span: 2", middle length: 25 3/8" (+/- 1").
Axle shaft C is installed: I'll measure it later, but it's clunking.

Apparently there should be some optimum minimum, maximum and middle measurements YouTube University says allow about 1/4" shy of min and max.

Any help out there?

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Changed Turbo.
100,000-mile service.
Replaced harmonic balancer.
Noise in front axle or 3rd member - removed loose chain in transfer case.
Rebuilt engine - replaced #3 cylinder, piston, valves, head repair. Removed EGR.
Sheared bolts on TC. Replaced flex plate, TC, bolts.


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 Post subject: Re: Hard to find noise -- clinking and clanking
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:43 pm 
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CaptainDean wrote:
Axle shaft A compressed: 23 7/8", extended: 25 even. Span: 1 1/8", middle length: 24 7/16" (+/-9/16).
Axle shaft B compressed: 24 3/8", extended: 26 3/8". Span: 2", middle length: 25 3/8" (+/- 1").
Axle shaft C is installed: I'll measure it later, but it's clunking.

Any help out there?

Dean.

Still have the box for one of my half shafts, it is from O'Reilly Auto Parts; a Precision brand part, p/n AM8003.
This item has quite a bit of on-line information, including the Compressed Length of 602mm & 23 11/16".

That matches up close enough with my Axle Shaft A.

Still, any other insight out there?

Dean.

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Changed Turbo.
100,000-mile service.
Replaced harmonic balancer.
Noise in front axle or 3rd member - removed loose chain in transfer case.
Rebuilt engine - replaced #3 cylinder, piston, valves, head repair. Removed EGR.
Sheared bolts on TC. Replaced flex plate, TC, bolts.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:42 pm 
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CaptainDean wrote:
CaptainDean wrote:
Axle shaft A compressed: 23 7/8", extended: 25 even. Span: 1 1/8", middle length: 24 7/16" (+/-9/16).
Axle shaft B compressed: 24 3/8", extended: 26 3/8". Span: 2", middle length: 25 3/8" (+/- 1").
Axle shaft C is installed: I'll measure it later, but it's clunking.
Any help out there?
Dean.

Still have the box for one of my half shafts, it is from O'Reilly Auto Parts; a Precision brand part, p/n AM8003.
This item has quite a bit of on-line information, including the Compressed Length of 602mm & 23 11/16".
That matches up close enough with my Axle Shaft A.
Still, any other insight out there?
Dean.

That 24 3/8" seems a little long to me??
Have this on file:
*If any of the lengths are incorrect, please advise! Neither IDParts or Sasquatch Parts list the lengths for the axles. :shock:

NAPA Axles (reman) Line: NAPA Premium CV Shafts
Front – Driver/Left side - NCV 940085-- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23.74 in.
Front – Passenger/Right side - NCV 940084 -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23.7 in.

Autozone: Line Duralast Gold
Front – Driver/Left side: 10168N -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23.74 in.
Front – Passenger/Right side: 10169N -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23.7 in.

Advance Auto Parts: Line Carquest Premium
Front – Driver/Left side: NCV82013 -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23 13/16 in
Front – Passenger/Right side - NCV82014 -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23 11/16 in

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:29 am 
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WWDiesel wrote:
CaptainDean wrote:
Still have the box for one of my half shafts, it is from O'Reilly Auto Parts; a Precision brand part, p/n AM8003.
This item has quite a bit of on-line information, including the Compressed Length of 602mm & 23 11/16".

Dean.

That 24 3/8" seems a little long to me??
Have this on file:
*If any of the lengths are incorrect, please advise! Neither IDParts or Sasquatch Parts list the lengths for the axles. :shock:

NAPA Axles (reman) Line: NAPA Premium CV Shafts
Front – Driver/Left side - NCV 940085-- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23.74 in.
Front – Passenger/Right side - NCV 940084 -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23.7 in.

Autozone: Line Duralast Gold
Front – Driver/Left side: 10168N -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23.74 in.
Front – Passenger/Right side: 10169N -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23.7 in.

Advance Auto Parts: Line Carquest Premium
Front – Driver/Left side: NCV82013 -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23 13/16 in
Front – Passenger/Right side - NCV82014 -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23 11/16 in

Thanks WWDiesel,

As I learn more, I understand these lengths are the "compressed" lengths.

Yes, the 24 3/8" does seem a bit long. I'm guessing I'll find the same long shaft already installed in the Jeep. It might be the correct part for a lifted Jeep. YouTube University videos show to jack the suspension up so the axle is parallel with the underside of the body, then measure the length. The half shaft should be able to compress another ~1/4" to be the correct length. This would be the shortest throw of the suspension, and the shaft should not bottom out there.

The left side lengths should not be the same as the right side lengths. Left side half-shaft is about 6" shorter than the right side half-shaft. I have not looked up any of the left-side half-shafts lengths.

Left and right half-shafts. Certainly most of you have seen these.
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Dean.

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100,000-mile service.
Replaced harmonic balancer.
Noise in front axle or 3rd member - removed loose chain in transfer case.
Rebuilt engine - replaced #3 cylinder, piston, valves, head repair. Removed EGR.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:28 am 
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Does he think the clicking & clanking is from your shoes Dean?
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Ha ha ha ha ha. LOL.

darn spammers. Sick'em administrators !! :)
Preview: I see this site's autocorrect changed "D a m n" to "darn". What a bunch of pantywaists the WWW has become. :)

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Changed Turbo.
100,000-mile service.
Replaced harmonic balancer.
Noise in front axle or 3rd member - removed loose chain in transfer case.
Rebuilt engine - replaced #3 cylinder, piston, valves, head repair. Removed EGR.
Sheared bolts on TC. Replaced flex plate, TC, bolts.


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WWDiesel wrote:
That 24 3/8" seems a little long to me??
Have this on file:
*If any of the lengths are incorrect, please advise! Neither IDParts or Sasquatch Parts list the lengths for the axles. :shock:

NAPA Axles (reman) Line: NAPA Premium CV Shafts
Front – Driver/Left side - NCV 940085-- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23.74 in.
Front – Passenger/Right side - NCV 940084 -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23.7 in.

Autozone: Line Duralast Gold
Front – Driver/Left side: 10168N -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23.74 in.
Front – Passenger/Right side: 10169N -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23.7 in.

Advance Auto Parts: Line Carquest Premium
Front – Driver/Left side: NCV82013 -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23 13/16 in
Front – Passenger/Right side - NCV82014 -- CV Driveshaft Compressed Length 23 11/16 in

Contacted IDParts, they emailed back saying their right side half-shaft is 602mm long. (23.7")

Dean.

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Changed Turbo.
100,000-mile service.
Replaced harmonic balancer.
Noise in front axle or 3rd member - removed loose chain in transfer case.
Rebuilt engine - replaced #3 cylinder, piston, valves, head repair. Removed EGR.
Sheared bolts on TC. Replaced flex plate, TC, bolts.


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Good job Administrators. Zapped that spammer right off of the forum.

Mauna Loa volcano blew up last night about 11:30 PM and started flowing down the slope southwesterly. Fortunately, my house is slightly northerly of due west. There is another small volcano mountain between us and the floe.
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This image is from the western-most part of the Big Island of Hawaii. Taken at 12:30 AM today. Our house is about midway between work and the floe.

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Changed Turbo.
100,000-mile service.
Replaced harmonic balancer.
Noise in front axle or 3rd member - removed loose chain in transfer case.
Rebuilt engine - replaced #3 cylinder, piston, valves, head repair. Removed EGR.
Sheared bolts on TC. Replaced flex plate, TC, bolts.


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Good job Administrators. Zapped that spammer right off of the forum.
Mauna Loa volcano blew up last night about 11:30 PM and started flowing down the slope southwesterly. Fortunately, my house is slightly northerly of due west. There is another small volcano mountain between us and the floe.
This image is from the western-most part of the Big Island of Hawaii. Taken at 12:30 AM today. Our house is about midway between work and the floe.
Dean.

I ban them and delete all their posts as soon as I see them.
Please report any spammers ASAP

Great picture Dean, stay safe! :wink:

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WW, I think you must use booting spammers as a treatment for insomnia! :grim: I see them when its overnight for you & they are gone soon after!
I dont understand the mentality of spammers. I would never do business with a company recommended by a spammer.

Hey Dean, please stay safe! Would rather have a bit of flood water about than that stuff! It would hurt if you got too close!

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CaptainDean wrote:
While doing research for half shaft axle length, I'm getting all kinds of answers. Even the parts I have are different lengths. None are as long as 28.1" for the 52111780AB replacement part number.

Axle shaft A compressed: 23 7/8", extended: 25 even. Span: 1 1/8", middle length: 24 7/16" (+/-9/16).
Axle shaft B compressed: 24 3/8", extended: 26 3/8". Span: 2", middle length: 25 3/8" (+/- 1").
Axle shaft C is installed: I'll measure it later, but it's clunking.


Dug into the beast again by removing the front right half shaft. I'm glad to discover that it came out without taking out the lower ball joint. Installed another half shaft and now the clunking sound is almost gone. I think the remaining small amount of clunking is from the worn intermediate shaft that allows the mating part of the half shaft sloppy. Anyway, the beast is road worthy again !!
:JEEPIN:
I enjoyed a celebratory cigar and glass of spiced rum. :5SHOTS:

Took some pictures of the three half shafts I have for the right side. There is only 1 of 3 that is correct -- the shorter one. :roll:
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I think the correct one is from IDParts from before COVID. One of the wrong ones is from O'Reilly's and the other wrong one is from someplace on-line.

The shortest one has a middle shaft that is shorter than the other two. It's 4-1/2" from boot to boot. (The aspect angle of the camera is misleading. I should have stood back further and zoomed in to get the correct angle on the tape measure.)
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The longer ones are both 5" from boot to boot.
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The Jeep goes down the road like it ought to now. I don't feel in a hurry to get the Intermediate Shaft now that the beast is back on the road.

Dean.

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Changed Turbo.
100,000-mile service.
Replaced harmonic balancer.
Noise in front axle or 3rd member - removed loose chain in transfer case.
Rebuilt engine - replaced #3 cylinder, piston, valves, head repair. Removed EGR.
Sheared bolts on TC. Replaced flex plate, TC, bolts.


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Good to see you have some progress Dean.
Is it just the shaft that varies in length? Are the splines the same lengths?
Years ago, my old Mercedes had a boot on one of the shafts (rear) fail.
It started banging like hitting a barrel with a hammer.
it was the shaft hitting against the inside end of the joint.
Probably similar to what you are hearing.
I dont know if the lengths on mine would be the same as what yours should be. Mine are RH drive.
Is the other one you had available to measure?

I need a little help with mine. I have sent you a PM.

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Dean, if you are not returning those two longer shaft assemblies you pictured, save them.
If the center part of the shaft is the only thing that is shorter, you could always reuse those new joints on each end of the longer shafts by simply removing them and transferring the CV joints to the shorter shafts. :wink:
All it would cost you is some time and some new CV boot clamps and maybe a little new moly grease.

If I have a CV joint go bad, I simply replace the CV joint itself with a new one & boot; no need to replace the whole unit unless the shaft itself is damaged in some way or the splines on the shaft are worn out. :D Same thing on the front driveshaft, if one of the CV joints goes bad, simply replace the the CV joint & boot; no need to purchase the very expensive whole driveshaft.
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layback40 wrote:
Good to see you have some progress Dean.
Is it just the shaft that varies in length? Are the splines the same lengths?
Years ago, my old Mercedes had a boot on one of the shafts (rear) fail.
It started banging like hitting a barrel with a hammer.
it was the shaft hitting against the inside end of the joint.
Probably similar to what you are hearing.
I don't know if the lengths on mine would be the same as what yours should be. Mine are RH drive.
Is the other one you had available to measure?

I need a little help with mine. I have sent you a PM.

layback40,

Each of these half shafts have been installed, so the splines are the same.
Your Mercedes back boots and half shafts sounds like it could not be ignored; my sounds are more dull, but definitely heard inside and outside the Jeep. However, not "banging on the side of a drum" as you described.
The part numbers in the MicroPhish are the same for RH drive to LH drive, however they are different for various engines. I can only imagine that I received half shafts intended for gasoline engines.

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100,000-mile service.
Replaced harmonic balancer.
Noise in front axle or 3rd member - removed loose chain in transfer case.
Rebuilt engine - replaced #3 cylinder, piston, valves, head repair. Removed EGR.
Sheared bolts on TC. Replaced flex plate, TC, bolts.


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WWDiesel wrote:
Dean, if you are not returning those two longer shaft assemblies you pictured, save them.
If the center part of the shaft is the only thing that is shorter, you could always reuse those new joints on each end of the longer shafts by simply removing them and transferring the CV joints to the shorter shafts. :wink:
All it would cost you is some time and some new CV boot clamps and maybe a little new moly grease.

Thanks for the suggestion WWDiesel,

I am planning to return one of the longer shafts, the other one was purchased too long ago to return. It seems that I will have to keep one complete shaft for parts.

Dean.

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Changed Turbo.
100,000-mile service.
Replaced harmonic balancer.
Noise in front axle or 3rd member - removed loose chain in transfer case.
Rebuilt engine - replaced #3 cylinder, piston, valves, head repair. Removed EGR.
Sheared bolts on TC. Replaced flex plate, TC, bolts.


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layback40,

I enjoyed your public post about the rubber boot banging around. "Explanation Points ( ! )" shot out of my head at the thought of hearing a "hammer on a drum" coming from the back of your Mercedes. Glad you found that.

Regarding your PM to me, I found that it was not sent. Here is my response to your Fuel Pressure Regulator questions...
I did have a lot of perplexing issues with the solenoid at the back end of the fuel rail. There was a few ohms of resistance across the solenoid, 4 or 5 ohms.

Also, I just reviewed my posts about the Fuel Pressure Regulator at the back of the fuel rail. The solenoid gets 5v pulse width modulation pulses from the ECM to open slightly as needed to regulate the pressure in the fuel rail. The fuel pressure regulator is held closed with spring pressure, and slightly opened by the 5v pulse width modulated signal from the ECM.

If you are reading 0 ohms, then that solenoid is shorted and should be replaced, or there is a short in the wiring leading to it which needs to be found and fixed. The wiring is a direct run from the ECM connector to the Fuel Pressure Regulator solenoid connector.

I found that after all my troubleshooting and "pounding on the Jeep" as I say to my wife, the original ECM was still functional. Apparently it is well protected from probing with 12v from the battery.

Hope this helps. Good luck proceeding.
Dean.

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