4'' Lift now available

Rock Lizard · **Posted:** Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:47 pm

Got a 4" kit going to be here maybe by the end of next week. Probably get it installed after moving into the new shop (woohoo, I finally found one), so by the end of November, should have it all together and beating it up on some of the local trails. We will be doing a full install writeup with actual lift gains and serious trail testing to get the Rock Lizard seal of approval. :twisted:

I have no doubts this will be a quality kit, but we will definately be giving it a thorough inspection.

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:51 pm

So whose KJ is gonna be the Guinea Pig ? ? But that is cool you are going to test it out, and hopefully it will get the RL seal of approval.....

CD · **Posted:** Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:09 pm

Rock Lizard wrote:

Got a 4" kit going to be here maybe by the end of next week. Probably get it installed after moving into the new shop (woohoo, I finally found one), so by the end of November, should have it all together and beating it up on some of the local trails. We will be doing a full install writeup with actual lift gains and serious trail testing to get the Rock Lizard seal of approval. :twisted:

I have no doubts this will be a quality kit, but we will definately be giving it a thorough inspection.

That's great news RL, & glad you found a new shop to call home.

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:12 pm

A new SHOP!!!!!!

AWESOME!

I think a party is in order. Shop warming party. All the LOST Rockies Colorado guys can give Marty a wrench or socket gift.

:lol:

Rock Lizard · **Posted:** Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:25 pm

CDKJ wrote:

That's great news RL, & glad you found a new shop to call home.

It's not set in stone yet. Checked it out today, going back Saturday with one more look over with Troy, then most likely sign the lease.

2006KJSPORT4x4 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:59 pm

HERE HERE!!!!!! Best of luck with the potential new digs Marty....Lord knows it seems you could use it consideringa ll the projects you do and seem to want to take on...Godspeed sir!!

Rock Lizard · **Posted:** Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:18 am

Guess what I got today. :twisted:

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:26 am

WOOO HOOOOOO take lotsa pics :twisted:

Rock Lizard · **Posted:** Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:23 pm

Got all the parts now. Here is a picture of all the parts (minus some hardware). Is anyone good at photochop that can clean up the background to white so just the parts are showing, not the dirty backdrop.

MikeJ06 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:03 pm

Tokyojoe wrote:

Yes, the rear has to be adjusted for the extra lift height and causing the rear arms to move the tire closer to the front of the well/flares.

This is going to seem like an odd question, but could you or anyone else explain the whole rear suspension angle to me? What I mean is, when either side of the rear travels, does it get pulled closer to the front of the wheel well under normal conditions? I asked a friend of mine and his response was that I was thinking of the rear arm as being a single pivot point on the axle and not as an entire structure with multiple points. But if there are multiple pivot points at the rear ( I guess it is a U joint?), then at what point in suspension travel does the entire rear get pulled forward? Also, does the opposite side become effected when one side is pulled forward and if so how?

FreeJeep · **Posted:** Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:45 am

Where are the new CVs? or are you gona mod your own?

LostEddie · **Posted:** Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:24 pm

MikeJ06 wrote:

Tokyojoe wrote:

Yes, the rear has to be adjusted for the extra lift height and causing the rear arms to move the tire closer to the front of the well/flares.

This is going to seem like an odd question, but could you or anyone else explain the whole rear suspension angle to me? What I mean is, when either side of the rear travels, does it get pulled closer to the front of the wheel well under normal conditions? I asked a friend of mine and his response was that I was thinking of the rear arm as being a single pivot point on the axle and not as an entire structure with multiple points. But if there are multiple pivot points at the rear ( I guess it is a U joint?), then at what point in suspension travel does the entire rear get pulled forward? Also, does the opposite side become effected when one side is pulled forward and if so how?

Well MikeJ, because you asked, I will try to paint a word picture.

First: there is an “arm” from the frame (in front of the axel) to the bottom of the axel (one on each side). If this arm was swung completely straight down the axel would be under the passenger seat, way “forward” of its correct position. Of course the axel will not swing down that much because the shocks extend only so far, but you see that the axel moves forward as it swings down. So when a truck is lifted (axel swung down a few inches) the at-rest position is forward of the at-rest of a non-lifted truck. And yes the axel moves forward in normal conditions -- a lifted Liberty operates more forward because the arm has swung down to its “lifted” position.

Second: there is also an “Arm” on the top of the axel that together with the Arms under the axel keep the axel from rotating with the wheels. This top “arm” is a yoke or V that comes together at the top of the differential. As the axel moves up and down, the input shaft stays somewhat level and the drive shaft universal joints bend to keep things turning. The upper and lower arms are not the same length so the axel tilts a bit also.

Third: On a lifted Liberty, the angel that the drive shaft meets the differential is always a little extreme -- so the 4” lift added the spacer to move the top arm back up, more to its normal position, this swing up moves that point backward, tilting the differential input shaft back up, lessoning the angel with the drive shaft.

Opposite side effected -- well a bit if one side moves down and forward the axel tilts and the wheels stay true to the axel so the higher wheel is tilted out at the bottom and turned out at its front ever so slightly -- not so mush to effect its alignment. But will not move forward unless its arm swings down.

Now you are likely very confused!

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:30 pm

FreeJeep wrote:

Where are the new CVs? or are you gona mod your own?

No new CV's with the kit,have to mod the one's on the KJ to work.

Donnie · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:19 pm

tjkj2002 wrote:

FreeJeep wrote:

Where are the new CVs? or are you gona mod your own?

No new CV's with the kit,have to mod the one's on the KJ to work.

I thought this was only needed on the 6" kit?

deviousz · **Posted:** Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:01 am

Rock Lizard wrote:

Got a 4" kit going to be here maybe by the end of next week. Probably get it installed after moving into the new shop (woohoo, I finally found one), so by the end of November, should have it all together and beating it up on some of the local trails. We will be doing a full install writeup with actual lift gains and serious trail testing to get the Rock Lizard seal of approval. :twisted:

I have no doubts this will be a quality kit, but we will definately be giving it a thorough inspection.

It's been a while, any progress on testing/writeup?

LIV42DY · **Posted:** Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:04 pm

Joe Jeeper wrote:

The mirror's tapered, from the ground to the outside bottom edge it's 49 3/4", from the ground to the inside bottom edge it's 48 3/4". Joe

Joe, now this is puzzling the heck out of me, just read the post and ran to the garage and measured exactly as you did, Im running a Franki with 927's and I got 49 to the 0utside edge and 48 1/4 to the inside, just had the concrete poured in the garage and it level.

tommudd · **Posted:** Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:31 pm

LIV42DY wrote:

Joe Jeeper wrote:

The mirror's tapered, from the ground to the outside bottom edge it's 49 3/4", from the ground to the inside bottom edge it's 48 3/4". Joe

Joe, now this is puzzling the heck out of me, just read the post and ran to the garage and measured exactly as you did, Im running a Franki with 927's and I got 49 to the 0utside edge and 48 1/4 to the inside, just had the concrete poured in the garage and it level.

LIV42DAY

I agree with being puzzled, with mine I am at 49 1/4 outside edge on 265-70-16s and don't have a Frankenlift :cry:

daspes · **Posted:** Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:55 pm

I thought we had established that a frankie is almost the exact same height as a JBA 4" lift back around page 2?

tommudd · **Posted:** Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:21 pm

daspes wrote:

I thought we had established that a frankie is almost the exact same height as a JBA 4" lift back around page 2?

We did but you know not all read everything so we are just restarting it again, by page 10 we can do it all again :lol:

dieselenthusiast · **Posted:** Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:25 am

According to tjkj2002, the Franky with extra isolators is just as tall as the JBA 4” lift. As a matter of fact, in one photo, tjkj2002’s jeep and his skyjacker lift was taller than Tokyojoe’s JBA 4” lift, but primarily due to tire size.

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