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Mount that skid up and start testing. I can't wait to see the results if you play in some nice size rocks. Since you said you don't wheel in rocks, I will guess it will be ok. I also agree that if you can sell them for the price you mentioned then it will be a fair deal for those that don't wheel in rocks.

Good luck and let the testing begin!

The thing I will mention about MT/R's is they are a decent road tire that works great in the roacks out here in the West. I know they are not the best for mud though. I have seen 6-7 other brand tires get cut in terrain where MT/R's Didn't. I love them. I will also say that my Dunlop Mud Rovers have been pretty good too and much cheaper but I did see Jeff rim pinch cut his recently. Nothing is perfect for every situation I guess.

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i know about the E load range thing i have seen swampers break off chunks of trees and they were c range the e range refers to load and the side wall strength not as to weather it is a good tire
what do you mean by "out rigers" that sounds like some thing that hangs off the side?


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also it looks like that skid has only 2 or maby 3 inches to bolt to the transmission mount mine will cover it all the way to the back also mine
will over lap the x-fer case skid not just meet it making for a smother transition when going forward i will likely counter sink 1/2 inch bolts to avoid snags on them and the front has 3" to go under the front skid
all this was looked at to help avoid bending


think of it like this if you were to place a 2X4 between 2 tables and leave only a few inches on each side and nail it down with 2 nails on each side the ends will still bend up if you sit on it
but if you leave more on each side and use 4 nails per side then the ends will not bend up when you sit on it and the center will bend less
make sense ?


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but I did see Jeff rim pinch cut his recently. Nothing is perfect for every situation I guess.


Yep....I got 2 holes in the sidewall that took 2 plugs each to fill. Guess I need to learn how to drive :)


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just to update this post
I fianaly started the install tonight
got the skid bolted up and tried to jack the jeep from it
I am not real happy with what i saw it seems to flex some what ,about 1/2"-3/4" to get the jack stands loose and it held 3/8" after on center
so to those who said it would bend

You were right ,for now

However tomarrow I will be "revising" the designe and welding some angle on the outter edges that will go under the skid
it will not have the clean lines that i want but it will work
I am also thinking about 2 pcs off 3/8X1" flat bar welded down the middle
this may drive the cost up close to $200 but if it cant hold the weight of the jeep what good is it doing me?
if i have it tomarrow i will post up pics if not then friday


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It is still better than the stock T skid.

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jason thompson wrote:
also it looks like that skid has only 2 or maby 3 inches to bolt to the transmission mount mine will cover it all the way to the back also mine
will over lap the x-fer case skid not just meet it making for a smother transition when going forward i will likely counter sink 1/2 inch bolts to avoid snags on them and the front has 3" to go under the front skid
all this was looked at to help avoid bending


think of it like this if you were to place a 2X4 between 2 tables and leave only a few inches on each side and nail it down with 2 nails on each side the ends will still bend up if you sit on it
but if you leave more on each side and use 4 nails per side then the ends will not bend up when you sit on it and the center will bend less
make sense ?


jason thompson wrote:
I am not real happy with what i saw it seems to flex some what ,about 1/2"-3/4" to get the jack stands loose and it held 3/8" after on center
so to those who said it would bend

You were right ,for now



I hate to say I told you so but...... Keep adding to it and soon you will be where you could have just bought an All J. :wink:

But seriously, Keep trying and you will at least end up with something better than the factory piece. At least your transmission will be protected.
So what did your engineer friend say about it after it bent?

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JJsKJ wrote:
jason thompson wrote:
also it looks like that skid has only 2 or maby 3 inches to bolt to the transmission mount mine will cover it all the way to the back also mine
will over lap the x-fer case skid not just meet it making for a smother transition when going forward i will likely counter sink 1/2 inch bolts to avoid snags on them and the front has 3" to go under the front skid
all this was looked at to help avoid bending


think of it like this if you were to place a 2X4 between 2 tables and leave only a few inches on each side and nail it down with 2 nails on each side the ends will still bend up if you sit on it
but if you leave more on each side and use 4 nails per side then the ends will not bend up when you sit on it and the center will bend less
make sense ?


jason thompson wrote:
I am not real happy with what i saw it seems to flex some what ,about 1/2"-3/4" to get the jack stands loose and it held 3/8" after on center
so to those who said it would bend

You were right ,for now



I hate to say I told you so but...... Keep adding to it and soon you will be where you could have just bought an All J. :wink:

But seriously, Keep trying and you will at least end up with something better than the factory piece. At least your transmission will be protected.
So what did your engineer friend say about it after it bent?



Yes you did tell me and were right but I will say that the skid cost me $130 at this point and now it will cost me another $20 for more angle
thats still only $150 to my door wich is about 1/2 the cost of the all j's skid

I dont know what he has to say I have not called him how ever the other guy who is "fixing" it says that it should be "more than enough to hold up a small suv like that" he said "heck this should hold up a hummer" I said "we shall see"
bend or not i think after this I will leave it as is

Oh yeah it may have been my own fault that it bent because I did hot have the bolts in the back on the trans mount tight


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Keep on pluggin away Jason. I want the first production model on my Jeep. I am sick of having to flatten my mopar skid after every trail ride :twisted:

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