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OK I know I will catch some flammage here probably but lets just start this off as, This is just my opinion.

I have the OME struts up front and Ranchos in the rear. The rear rides so smooth and stays glued to the road in manner which feels like it just floats over bumps. The front on the other hand is just not at all to my liking. It is very stiff and you can feel every tiny bump you go over. I personally cant wait for them to go so I can slap some racho struts up there.

Now as far as the price is concerned. I know you get what you pay for but lets look at it this way. The rancho 17004 for the rear i have, I paid 55 bucks each from summitt which included free shipping. AJ has em for 10 bucks more plus shipping. Now the new OME shocks are $75 each plus shipping from AJ, and thats just for a couple more weeks. That equals out to 40 more just for the set of shocks over the ranchos and that doesn't even include shipping!!! Come on only a few bucks more I THINK NOT!

To each is his own though. I thought I would just throw my opinion in the mix to help someone looking at this see the possibilty of the "other side" out there.




OZ interesting point you bring up also! I may need to look into that as adding a tiny bump stop could extend the life of my shocks :idea:

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OZ interesting point you bring up also! I may need to look into that as adding a tiny bump stop could extend the life of my shocks :idea:


Well its such an important issue I believe, afterall, look at how much we all go on about "price this, and expensive that" . One maybe 2 good hits on that shocks internal foot valve and its all over red rover..............'price' we say ?

protect your investment - put in a lower bumpstop of you run shocks with a compression of 380mm or higher.

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i was apparently under the false impression that shocks were made to handle these things. ...the topping out and the bottoming out

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From the All J website:

Rear Includes:
OME Heavy Duty coils; Rancho RSX 17004 shocks; and Daystar rear bump stops.

There you go.... bump stops included.

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2006KJSPORT4x4 wrote:
Sweet action Heather....that is some great pricing...I'll be saving what I can till the 25th and probably making a big purchase...but we shall see....thanks for your support of the HOBBY!!!!


Glad you like the Pre-Sale pricing! We did our best to keep the price similar to other OME "N" shocks -- even though these particular shocks were designed specifically for the application of a lifted Liberty and a lot of R&D work went into them. Basically we had to buy A LOT of them to get the price down to where it was fair for you all..... hopefully we made the right decision buying so many of the new N132L shocks and every lifted KJ owner will want to have a pair of these unbelievable shocks on his/her lifted Liberty.


Hello from México Heather !

I've been following your effort to bring us high quality products for KJ's (i'm an old experienced TJ owner). Since you've created the Frankenlift, your compromise to get involved with manufacturers and collaborate with them in R&D and now this...keep doing it ! :) Good Job !

Like I said before, I was married with TJ's before I met the Libby :oops: . They've a lot of market options and their market is very mature and big. But.....there's a new sleep market borning...

Is a fact that the KJ's owners group is growing and expanding every day, this because the Libby is an excellent and well-performed vehicle on and off-road, I dare to say that is the best in his class and others. If you compare it with bigger vehicles the Libby wins in a lot of tests although.
It's very limited, but it wins penny by penny and pound by pound if you compare the same (apples vs apples).
I've always said that if the Jeep designers would done the KJ with solid front axle, this tremendous vehicle would get a lot of its competitors out of market. And here is where you get in, working hard to give us options, pushing, supporting us, etc.I'd like to thank you very very much for this.

In the last issue of motortrend magazine they compare the poor KJ with H3, XTerra and new Toyota's....the KJ lost almost in every test...but the other vehicles came out from factory BIGGER than the Liberty...for me, that was an unfair comparision...
They tested the KJ with 225/70R16 Goodyear STREET TIRES !!!, without limited slip option....was a very unfair competition...I bet my new Liberty to MT that if I compete with them in the other vehicles they tested (the H3 had 33's with lockers) I win test by test...:x
Obviously with a side by side vehicle....(31's, Limited or Locked, 2.5" lifted, BFG M'T's)....the Jeep was striked too much with scare histories from accidents and other things that they were pushed to change and down-size a lot the KJ....now in México we have Toyota's burned every month....let see what Toyota will do...hahaha

But returning to the main matter, you're making history...

Saludos desde México !!!

P.S.: Soon I'll be frankenlifting my new KJ. Obviously with those new OME struts. :wink:

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ARBSeth wrote:
From the All J website:

Rear Includes:
OME Heavy Duty coils; Rancho RSX 17004 shocks; and Daystar rear bump stops.

There you go.... bump stops included.


Cool. How long/high are the new extended bumpstops ?

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Looks like special sale was extended till the 31 of January...SUPER

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Will these shocks work with a 2.5 inch spacer lift?

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Length wise, yes. You may need some addtional hardware depending on the shock you're currently using. If you're already using a longer shock, you should be fine. If not, you may need to lengthen your bumpstops.

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2006KJSPORT4x4 wrote:
Looks like special sale was extended till the 31st of January...SUPER


By this comment I meant the New Year's sale AllJs is having, not the Pre-Sale on the shocks....that ends on the 25th of January... :D

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what kind of hard ware are we talking about needing here and how large of a bump stop would be needed????

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OzLtd wrote:
ARBSeth wrote:
From the All J website:

Rear Includes:
OME Heavy Duty coils; Rancho RSX 17004 shocks; and Daystar rear bump stops.

There you go.... bump stops included.


Cool. How long/high are the new extended bumpstops ?

I'm pretty sure the daystar's are 1.5" Stu.
That is what I bought with my rancho's.


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bump getting close to deadline for preorder part. How long after order will we get these shocks just wondering

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When I ordered them, Heather told me they would ship out on the 25th or 26th of this month. I'm waiting patiently. :)

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Heather,

I bought the Daystar 1.5"/2.0" spacer lift (KJ09123) from All-J in November. I haven't experienced ANY issues with my factory struts or shocks yet, but I've only offroaded once since being lifted. Do I need an extended-length shock like the Rancho RSX17004 or the new OME when the time comes to replace the factory shocks?

I apologize if this is getting off topic. Moderators will move the post if needed.

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Heather,

I bought the Daystar 1.5"/2.0" spacer lift (KJ09123) from All-J in November. I haven't experienced ANY issues with my factory struts or shocks yet, but I've only offroaded once since being lifted. Do I need an extended-length shock like the Rancho RSX17004 or the new OME when the time comes to replace the factory shocks?

I apologize if this is getting off topic. Moderators will move the post if needed.

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No, you do not need to get longer shocks unless you want more flex. I have the OME rear HD springs with the OME shocks(The regular ones) and they are only 1/2in longer than the stock shocks and they do just fine. :wink:

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So I hear these are for export only. Not available in Australia. Can anyone comfirm this? Local ARB guy recons he cant source them...


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So I hear these are for export only. Not available in Australia. Can anyone comfirm this? Local ARB guy recons he cant source them...


These were spec built for All J Products and are only for sale by them. I am sure they could get a set shipped off to Australia no problem.
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I had the new OME shocks installed over the weekend. The bushings stuck out to far and they had to be grinded down to fit on the KJ--increasing the install cost. Rusty's shocks were shot and heavily rusted. It's hard for me to compare the two because Rusty's shocks were shot when I replaced them. It's nice to not hear all of the banging noises now.

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 Post subject: Re: New shocks
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I had the new OME shocks installed over the weekend. The bushings stuck out to far and they had to be grinded down to fit on the KJ--increasing the install cost. Rusty's shocks were shot and heavily rusted. It's hard for me to compare the two because Rusty's shocks were shot when I replaced them. It's nice to not hear all of the banging noises now.
The reason for the bushings on the OME's looking to wide is the Rusty's shocks do not have the right bushings(not wide enough) and when you tighten the top bolt is crushes the mount.So the OME's only looked to wide but are actually not,they are specifically made for the KJ.


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