Thanks Fouros.

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My Jeep Build ----> Big Black

There are many KJ's with front and rear ARB air lockers who have ESP, so yes, we do know for sure.

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2015 Ram Ecodiesel/Big Horn/4x4/Quad Cab
2016 Arctic Fox 22G/Onboard 2500 LP Cummins Onan Generator/160 Watt Solar Panel

I took the road less traveled. Now I'm LOST.

so is it out yet? and if its not why the hell are we, as a forum, talking about something thats not even out? let me know when its out and tried and true, and then ill buy it.

the aussie locker?? no its not out yet and I thought you have the DTT in the rear?

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1980 Jeep CJ7 Buggy
SOA, D44/ FF14B, SBC 350, SM465, NP205, 108" WB, 37" MTs

http://www.dpgoffroad.com/
http://www.ucora.org/
http://www.christianoffroad.com/
http://jeepinbyal.com/

????only 14 pages of talking about something that is coming out ______________________________ put in any date after 12/25/08

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

hhahah----is ee your humor TOM. so this means that you are aggreing with me. ???????????????

great to know... thank you!

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2006 Renegade. Completely stock.

Who are these people and why did they not speak up in my thread announcing I would be the test????????

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2006 CRD http://www.UtahPowderCoatings.com/ http://www.gorecon.com/ I'm kind of a big deal.
RL rear bumper, ARB front bumper, Mile Marker winch, Power Tank, Skids by Mopar & Skid Row, RL Super Skink Sliders, 235/85R16 MTR, Air Flow Snorkel, DTT, 4.10 gears, Frankenlift II, Katskin leather, JL Audio stereo, Rosen video.

I thought you were trying to install a detroit??

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1980 Jeep CJ7 Buggy
SOA, D44/ FF14B, SBC 350, SM465, NP205, 108" WB, 37" MTs

http://www.dpgoffroad.com/
http://www.ucora.org/
http://www.christianoffroad.com/
http://jeepinbyal.com/

In my thread when I was looking for opinions (Locking for a final answer) on what I should put in no one knew for sure how a locker would interact with ESP.
The locker being a locker....not a specific brand. I chose the DL because it seemed no one had a bad thing to say about the company (except me in the end). The ARB locks on demand but even then, no one knew for sure how it will work with ESP (when locked).

If there are people with ESP and lockers out there, they did not state their experiences on here as far as I can tell. The techs at Eaton were also unwilling to give an up or down vote on interactions with ESP.

As far as I know, if a KJ owner with ESP installs a locker they are a pioneer blazing new ground and should share their experiences with the world. Which was my plan before the bad times.

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2006 CRD http://www.UtahPowderCoatings.com/ http://www.gorecon.com/ I'm kind of a big deal.
RL rear bumper, ARB front bumper, Mile Marker winch, Power Tank, Skids by Mopar & Skid Row, RL Super Skink Sliders, 235/85R16 MTR, Air Flow Snorkel, DTT, 4.10 gears, Frankenlift II, Katskin leather, JL Audio stereo, Rosen video.

yes i do and it works great. and im not really sure, but do the '02 sports have ESP? i dont think mine does, but if it does, then the DTT works great with it. i have had no problems with it at all.

No ESP(the devil) till '06 in the KJ.

The thing about the ARB locker is its selectable. Your not likely to be engaging your lockers at highway speeds anyway, just slow trail crawling or straight ahead get through the mud situations. The rest of the time ESP will see it as an open diff. No issues.

I choose ARB's front so I could continue to use full-time 4wd. I was worried that it would do strange things. I don't have ESP so I might have gone DL for the rear, but since I felt my only choice up front was ARB, didn't make sense to mix and match, beside I had to buy the compressor anyway.

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2005 CRD "Ol' Blue"
Red Ryder carbine-action, two hundred shot range model air rifle with a compass in the stock and this thing which tells time.
My build page- RL Komodo Rear and TJM Front Bumper, armored, lifted, JBA Steel D30, 4.10s and ARB air lockers.

Let me stress this one more time. I called ARB and specifically asked about the KJ, ESP, and AIR LOCKERS. ARB has sold hundreds of ARB lockers that have been successfully installed in KJ’s with ESP all over the world. There have been no documented concerns with the ARB air lockers in the front or rear differentials. ARB went on to say that the ESP system works only with the brakes and has nothing to do with the differentials. When setting aside all biased views, ARB does the most research and real-world testing to design a locker that will perform exactly the way a locker is designed to perform. In this case scenario, it’s pretty safe to say that you get what you pay for.

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2015 Ram Ecodiesel/Big Horn/4x4/Quad Cab
2016 Arctic Fox 22G/Onboard 2500 LP Cummins Onan Generator/160 Watt Solar Panel

I took the road less traveled. Now I'm LOST.

i agree completely... you do get what you pay for. and when you think about it.. it all makes sense. if a locker (an aussie for example) makes sure both the tires are spinning at the same rate at the same time the ESP wont think any wheel is slipping therefore not applying any control to either wheel. so if the front and rear are locked it's as if your KJ has no ESP. the only thing i wonder about is with something like a DTT in the front where as a Limited slip it will allow 1 wheel to turn more than the other instead of being completely locked. in that case i think the ESP would work just like it does on an open diff if there was excessive spinning. oh well.. only one way to find out

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2006 Renegade. Completely stock.

Sounds good but unless you have ARB's F/R and both locked the ESP still can go haywire on you,it also is taking into acount how fast the front wheels(both) are spinning compared to the rear wheels(both) also along with each wheel seperatly.It shouldn't kick in as often but could play havoc in sertain situations when you don't want it to.

I am so glad I don't have to worry about ESP poo. I am going with the powertrax for what it is worth. I met a guy today that runs it on a blazer with 37s and he loves it. So I am sure it will work for my 31s.

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My Jeep Build ----> Big Black

[/quote]No ESP(the devil) till '06 in the KJ.[/quote]

oh ok

Mine kicks in when I have the cruise control set and it needs to shift down when I go uphill Very annoying. On a brighter note: I just found out that I am exempt from emissions testing because diesels have to be tested on a dyno and someone with a light duty diesel and electronic traction control got their tranny trashed when the ETC when haywire on the rollers. I guess that's a silver lining of sorts anyway.

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'06 Stone White, CRD Limited
CRD Frankenlift II, Rock Lizard Rear Bumper, Mann Provent, GDE FT-ECO Tune, "Euro Torque Converter, Transgo 545RFE-H2 Shift Kit, 245/75 MT/R's on Moabs, Full Mopar Skids, Front Tow Hooks, CAT 2 Fuel filter and bleeder valve mod, Fumoto valve, Wahlbro Lift Pump, Custom 2 1/2" Exhaust

i have absolutely no complaints with my ESP i have to say it does it's job very well. Especially while offroading. if i'm on a very slippery surface where all tires have no traction the esp will spin one then both... then one. then both... then one.. then both trying to get traction. in a way it mimics having lockers. i have open diffs but there are a lot of times when all 4 of my wheels are spinning at once when none have traction. This is in 4 low (when the esp is supposed to be completely off). in 4 lo it does not cut out the throttle at all.. just helps with traction. when it's "on" in 4hi or 2hi it will cut the throttle/apple brakes when it feels a wheel slip. The only down fall is that it's not predictable. you never know when all 4 wheels are spinning and that only happens once your stuck. lockers are predictable.. and that's why i want them.

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2006 Renegade. Completely stock.