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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:49 pm 
I've had 4x4s with autos and sticks both. the stick is more challenging, especially when you're hanging your torso out the window and trying to manipulate the throttle and clutch while avoiding ramming your precious sheetmetal into a log or something. I prefer an automatic, but I certainly don't MIND a manual.


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OK so you have a
NEW PROCESS or NP241J as in what I posted way back that they do in fact make one and that they are RARE
but are found in jeeps
you still DO NOT HAVE a NEW VENTURE or NV241

as I said befor READ WHAT I POST


X2 re-read what we ALL posted, NV241 is what yall were claimin and that bogus "source" that yall posted said yall had NV241 as well :roll: So you basically understand now that you're wrong right? NP241J is way different than an NV241...hopefully you understand now...

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No, you have the nv241 heavy duty transfer case. Crawl under your rig and check it out on the tag. It holds 4.2 pints of fluid, which is quite a bit more than the other diffs-which has gotta be a good thing.


See this is what you posted a ways back, maybe you shoulda crawled under your rig and checked your tag :roll: Like we told you to multiple times, no pic proof though...

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That is why it was such a surprise to me that you were so insistent, but still wrong...you get a pass...


Whoops, might wana re-phrase this one huh? :lol:

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I KNOW I have the nv241, but it is NOT HD.
Take care all....


:lol: :lol: I dont even need to comment this one :roll: :roll:

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Never said I had a 241HD under my Jeep, just that it was an NV241......and then post a link that says that KJ's with an nsg370 do in fact have an NV241 transfer case.


Ummm so you figure out your mistake yet? You just posted pics of a NP241J NOT a NV241...yet you still were dead set it was a NV241...KJs do in fact have a NV241 huh?? :lol: :roll:

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Thats enough rippin of yall for one day :wink: Yall contradicted yourselfs multiple times in this thread and I posted up just a few, next time your so dead set on being right, try to make sure you are before callin out other members and sayin we have inflated heads and we are wrong and such, when we were right the WHOLE thread :wink:

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I forgot to look under my wife's 06.

I'm not really expecting to find anything special, but jut to stoke the fire...

Anyone remember when they put Porsch engines in Bettles and VW vans back in the 60s because they ran out the the normal engine? something like 500 were put through with this "undocumented feature"

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There are a couple topics floating around about this. If she DOES have a regular 241J that all the 6-spds supposedly come with, It is stronger than the 231 that I have in my '02 5-spd and will it fit?

Will her 6-spd that never goes off-road ever be usable with no problems on the road with my 231 in it?

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Dang Jason!! You made me crawl under my jeep, out in the street, at 7:15A.M.!! It is kinda cold out there!!
My tag reads : 241 J And no, I do not think it is the same case that comes in a rubicon. All I was saying, is that it has been written somewhere, and I do not remember where, as being "Heavy duty." My point was that it holds more fluid, and that has to be good...and I do not believe that mine is one of a kind. That is just the way they come off the old assembly line. So go ahead and have a cup of joe and worry about something else. Who the he#@ cares anyways? All of these jeep mechanical t cases are very proven, no matter which one you have...
You sure it didn't look like this pic?
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Granted the serial # will be different.No KJ ever,and mean ever,came with the 241J t-case.The 241J t-case is a Jeep Rubicon only t-case,unless you swapped one in,that would be the only way you got one.The 231 and 242 t-case are about $600-$750 brand new,the 241J t-case(RockTrac) is $1600+,doubt Jeep would make that mistake on the assembly line.

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POWERTRAIN
Engine 3.7L SOHC V6
Displacement (cu. in.) 226
Net Power – kW (hp) @ rpm 157 (210) @ 5200
Net Torque – N·m (lb-ft) @ rpm 319 (235) @ 4000
Fuel System Sequential multipoint electronic fuel injection
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6-speed manual with overdrive and hydraulically assisted, adjustment-free clutch Std.
4-speed automatic with overdrive and lockup torque converter; electronically controlled Opt.
FOUR-WHEEL-DRIVE SYSTEM (transfer case)
Command-TracTM NV241 HD (with manual transmission), part-time; 2-speed with
shift-on-the-fl y; includes low range (2.72:1) and Neutral Std.
Command-Trac NV231 (with automatic transmission), part-time; 2-speed with
shift-on-the-fl y; includes low range (2.72:1) and Neutral Std.
Selec-TracTM NV242 full-time; with shift-on-the-fl y; includes low
range (2.72:1) and Neutral, allows for full- or part-time four-wheel drive (4WD) BODY/SUSPENSION/CHASSIS

You can find this info at:

www.jeep.ca/en/common/pdf/specs_liberty.pdf

To quote you Jason: Google can be your freind whan you dont know

That is a typo,no KJ(as stated before) has ever came with or was even offered with the 241 t-case.The 241 t-case is a 3/4ton-1ton rated t-case and is way overkill for a KJ.It should read the 242J,231J,or 231HD,not the 241HD.That is a fact.Go to a junk yard and see if they have a 241HD t-case and look at it and compare it to the one under your KJ,it will be a huge difference,I promise.

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after this I am going to drop it
but I think that is a miss print
I stoped today and asked about the 241HD
The answer
"Yes thay make a 241DH and dodge uses them for that their HD trucks"
"look under that 2500 with a cummins it has a 241HD"

it is an option in the 2500 and standard on the 3500 but they put them in a KJ?
Think about it for a while
it can handel the torque from a cummins and hold up under a 3500 ,1 ton, pick up but they put it under a KJ?
the KJ is the only jeep that came with this T-case?
I do not doubt for a minute that you have a 231HD but I can not belive until I see it a KJ with a T-case that weighs over
100# dry

If you do have this T-case I would pull it sell it and get a 231 cause it is burning gas and soaking up power
the guy told me that you can hardly turn them by hand cause they are so heavy in side
he also said just look for the pto port
when i told him some one has 1 in a KJ he laughed and said
"I doubt that they cost a bunch besides why the hell would you need on a KJ can not even put a strain on a 231"
"I have seen them several times mistaged 242 tag on a 231 in a TJ just look for the pto port, no port no 241HD end of it"

http://dodgeram.org/tech/specs/tranfer_case.htm

Your 100% correct.


So are all of the liberty t cases made by new process like the 242 picture above?

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So are all of the liberty t cases made by new process like the 242 picture above?


Yes 8) NP231, NP231HD, and NP241J...the old TJs used NP231s until 2003 when the NV241 came out...but that was only on Rubis

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So are all of the liberty t cases made by new process like the 242 picture above?


Yes 8) NP231, NP231HD, and NP241J...the old TJs used NP231s until 2003 when the NV241 came out...but that was only on Rubis


Thanks, I think everything is all pretty cleared up now. If during any of these posts I offended anybody, made anybody mad, or whatever, I truly did not intend to. I just wanted to get to the bottom of it. There sure is a lot of misinformation/typos out there. I guess as the saying goes, "Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear" sure applies here. Take care all, and good luck... :)

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So are all of the liberty t cases made by new process like the 242 picture above?


Yes 8) NP231, NP231HD, and NP241J...the old TJs used NP231s until 2003 when the NV241 came out...but that was only on Rubis


Thanks, I think everything is all pretty cleared up now. If during any of these posts I offended anybody, made anybody mad, or whatever, I truly did not intend to. I just wanted to get to the bottom of it. There sure is a lot of misinformation/typos out there. I guess as the saying goes, "Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear" sure applies here. Take care all, and good luck... :)



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So are all of the liberty t cases made by new process like the 242 picture above?


Yes 8) NP231, NP231HD, and NP241J...the old TJs used NP231s until 2003 when the NV241 came out...but that was only on Rubis


Thanks, I think everything is all pretty cleared up now. If during any of these posts I offended anybody, made anybody mad, or whatever, I truly did not intend to. I just wanted to get to the bottom of it. There sure is a lot of misinformation/typos out there. I guess as the saying goes, "Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear" sure applies here. Take care all, and good luck... :)



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Cool Jason. Let's put this bad boy to bed...

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Out on the farm... the manual '84 3/4ton was always my choice over the auto '73 power wagon, both with mud tires. The manual would just go over rocks and 'stuff', I pulled a stuck duelly that was in the field out of the snow no problem. The auto power wagon was just a pain, would take a ton of gas to climb a rock, and then overshoot when it finally got there. Two different truck I know, but manual gives you know so much more control off road.

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.....but manual gives you know so much more control off road.


My argument with my wife is that it also provides much more control on the road as well :wink:

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