For ride, the rustys coil-overs would be best. A spacer shouldnt cause any more wear and tear but the ride will suffer alittle.
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| Author: | Limitedsilv06 [ Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Spacer Kit |
is a spacer kit harmful on struts/springs? I've heard some writeups where parts are damaged.. Is a coil over kit safer then a spacer in terms of things getting worn out quicker? I was thinking of a Rusty spacer, or Possibly a coil over but want to cause no additional wear and tear on parts. Which is safer? |
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| Author: | Jeepjeepster [ Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:37 pm ] |
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For ride, the rustys coil-overs would be best. A spacer shouldnt cause any more wear and tear but the ride will suffer alittle.
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| Author: | moose [ Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:39 pm ] |
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Jeepjeepster wrote: For ride, the rustys coil-overs would be best. A spacer shouldnt cause any more wear and tear but the ride will suffer alittle.
So why would the ride be better? I added the frankenlift and haven't noticed a better or worse ride; just taller. Has anyone tried out a spacer vs. a suspension lift to tell that one's better? |
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| Author: | Jeepjeepster [ Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:51 pm ] |
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The reason the ride is better with new coils is b/c the spring is pre-loaded with the spacer. It goes under the spring but the strut cannot open up any more than it was with the stock spring. thus a pre-loaded spring. With a spring from, say rustys, the lift doesnt come from just the coil being taller, the spring also has a different spring rate.
The reason you do not notice a difference in ride is b/c you have spring that gives a better ride, but also have a spacer that cancels out the better ride that OME springs have. |
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| Author: | Limitedsilv06 [ Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Rockfather I |
anyone have experience with Rockfather I lift? I heard with the rustys coilovers the shocks are noisy. This one is also priced pretty nicely and for an aditional $80 can get rear shocks.. I;ve read that spacers "OTT" not sure what OTT stands for but will cause the front struts to blow.? I read a breif rightup on the Rockfather here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Jeep_Liber ... Outfitters |
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| Author: | psinsyd [ Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:28 pm ] |
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I've noticed the Rusty's coil lift rides much better than it did stock. 
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| Author: | unixxx [ Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:28 pm ] |
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There's some info on OTT here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Jeep_Liberty/Suspension Essentially, you push the whole front strut assembly down by installing a spacer above it. This in turn lowers the control arms and wheels relative to the chassis.
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| Author: | moose [ Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:41 pm ] |
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Jeepjeepster wrote: The reason the ride is better with new coils is b/c the spring is pre-loaded with the spacer. It goes under the spring but the strut cannot open up any more than it was with the stock spring. thus a pre-loaded spring.
With a spring from, say rustys, the lift doesnt come from just the coil being taller, the spring also has a different spring rate. The reason you do not notice a difference in ride is b/c you have spring that gives a better ride, but also have a spacer that cancels out the better ride that OME springs have. I guess I just don't understand "preloaded springs" and all that. If a spacer is just moving the attachment point lower by 2", why would the spacer make a difference to the ride? |
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| Author: | Eddo [ Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:27 pm ] |
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moose wrote: Jeepjeepster wrote: The reason the ride is better with new coils is b/c the spring is pre-loaded with the spacer. It goes under the spring but the strut cannot open up any more than it was with the stock spring. thus a pre-loaded spring. With a spring from, say rustys, the lift doesnt come from just the coil being taller, the spring also has a different spring rate. The reason you do not notice a difference in ride is b/c you have spring that gives a better ride, but also have a spacer that cancels out the better ride that OME springs have. I guess I just don't understand "preloaded springs" and all that. If a spacer is just moving the attachment point lower by 2", why would the spacer make a difference to the ride? Two types of spacers. One goes inside the strut assembly and that increase preload. Another are the OTT style that go outside, but have a host of problems. |
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| Author: | Limitedsilv06 [ Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:37 pm ] |
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So what company makes one that goes inside the strut assembly?? I dont want any issues.Thanks! |
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| Author: | Jeepjeepster [ Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:50 pm ] |
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Limitedsilv06 wrote: So what company makes one that goes inside the strut assembly?? I dont want any issues.Thanks!
Daystar and Rustys are the main two.. |
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| Author: | corwyyn [ Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:26 am ] |
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I've ridden in a Frankenlifted KJ and mine with a Daystar spacer lift and couldn't tell any real difference. My understanding is that any lift will most likely cause stock struts and shocks to fail due to the shock/strut bottoming out with the increased travel. The lift I bought used came with Rancho 17505 struts and I purchased the 17004 shocks for the rear and everything seems to be fine, even though I haven't been able to get the extended front bumpstops installed. Heres a picture of the business end of the front: 
One thing about this lift is that it does include a side stop that contacts the steering knuckle to eliminate damage to the upper ball joint. Hope this helps. |
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| Author: | Limitedsilv06 [ Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:04 am ] |
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Jeepjeepster wrote: Limitedsilv06 wrote: So what company makes one that goes inside the strut assembly?? I dont want any issues.Thanks! Daystar and Rustys are the main two.. I thought I read the Rustys go on the outside.? I read some guy complaining this was a very bad OTT that caused him some damage. |
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| Author: | unixxx [ Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:01 pm ] |
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Quote: My understanding is that any lift will most likely cause stock struts and shocks to fail due to the shock/strut bottoming out with the increased travel.
The shocks should only bottom out in an OTT style spacer lift. In a suspension lift or puck spacer lift the spring should stop compressing before the shocks bottom out. |
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| Author: | Jeepjeepster [ Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:15 pm ] |
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Limitedsilv06 wrote: Jeepjeepster wrote: Limitedsilv06 wrote: So what company makes one that goes inside the strut assembly?? I dont want any issues.Thanks! Daystar and Rustys are the main two.. I thought I read the Rustys go on the outside.? I read some guy complaining this was a very bad OTT that caused him some damage. I believe they make both.
corwyyn, is that jeep sitting on the ground? 
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| Author: | Gordo [ Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:37 pm ] |
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Limitedsilv06 wrote: So what company makes one that goes inside the strut assembly?? I dont want any issues.Thanks!
You can buy some Rusty's plates for the inside of the strut assembly, but I don't think they have a kit. Daystar was mentioned, and Rocky Road makes a combo lift that has had good results as well. This kit is a good choice for '02 pre-lowered KJs. |
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| Author: | fortx4 KJ [ Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:44 pm ] |
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i just received my rustys ott spacer kit and got extended daystar 4 1/2" bump stops. what else wound i need as preventive measures? |
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