^ that is dangerous. If you need to make any sudden turns you jeep will flip or you will lose control ALOT easier.. Be careful with not having the sway bar on there.
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| Author: | moose_1978 [ Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | jks sway bar disconnect |
does anyone have the sway bar disconnect from jks?I was on there site and the instructions look pretty involved and was wondering if is worth the time and money? |
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| Author: | HyperKJ [ Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:47 am ] |
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i too would like to know this, i remember there was a thread before about the disco's, but it just kinda died off... does it have a way to secure the sway bar once disconnected so its not banging around?? |
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| Author: | corwyyn [ Sun Nov 26, 2006 4:35 am ] |
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HyperKJ wrote: i too would like to know this, i remember there was a thread before about the disco's, but it just kinda died off...
does it have a way to secure the sway bar once disconnected so its not banging around?? JKS Quick Disco for the KJ Should have all the answers you seek... |
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| Author: | Skyjump136 [ Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: jks sway bar disconnect |
moose_1978 wrote: does anyone have the sway bar disconnect from jks?I was on there site and the instructions look pretty involved and was wondering if is worth the time and money?
You can decide whether it is worth it or not by just taking your sway bar completely off...doesn't take real long and you'll see what type of articulation is possible. It also depends on what type of wheeling you do and how often you'd have the bar disco'd. For me it was worth it...only downside is the occasional clank. BTW, I'd highly recommend making a longer/beefier lanyard if you are lifted. Also, once I got the length dialed in and was relatively free of noises I JB Welded the lock nuts in place...they loosened up on me without it. |
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| Author: | jcphoto20 [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:38 am ] |
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i found i prefer the front sway bar removed with the rear in place. all ive seen on here is people saying how scary it is and its a bad idea, i havent found that to be the case at all. im curious, are the people saying this removing both front and rear? in my experience, without the front sway bar it rides much smoother, allowing IFS to work independently. prior to removal, any tiny bump upset the whole jeep. now its smoother at 42psi in the front than it was previously at 32. i admit im not used to driving a sports car, but mainly fullsize cars. so the lean doesnt feel excessive to me with the rear bar in place. has anyone else tried this? |
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| Author: | Jeepjeepster [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:07 am ] |
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^ that is dangerous. If you need to make any sudden turns you jeep will flip or you will lose control ALOT easier.. Be careful with not having the sway bar on there.
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| Author: | jcphoto20 [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:57 pm ] |
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i have made many evasive maneuvers since taking it off, and there was never any danger of leaning so far as to flip or even any scary feeling. if anything, the front and rear are more in sync and feel better balanced than they did with the excessively large front sway bar. it was obviously used to compensate for weaker front springs than they should have used, apparently for ride comfort. this is not a problem with it removed. it is just a tad soft for me, but i think it will be just about perfect when i round up some 3/4 spacers for the front springs. but most kits these days have the 1 1/2 ones that just bind it up. |
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| Author: | Skyjump136 [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:11 pm ] |
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I wouldn't drive mine farther than around the block with the front disconnected...it feels very tipsy. Offroad is another story of course... |
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| Author: | Pablo [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | bar off |
Some folks are used to driving older cars that did not have swaybars- particularly 1950's model cars or older, Those old cars also had a VERY high center of gravity. If you take the anti-swaybar off the Liberty-- it handles more like one of those old cars-- although still not quite as bad as some I have driven. Since some folks are used to these old cars-- this does not scare them. To others used to driving modern cars-- it scares the pee out of them as soon as they turn the wheel and vehicle leans to the opposing side. While the ride is much smoother with the bar off-- the cornering ability is reduced significantly. You can drive the vehicle safely if you keep the speed down as the vehicle weight will not shift enough at slow speeds to roll the vehicle . This is why people can remove the bar when going offroad with little risk. You cannot, however, safely drive the vehicle at higher speeds without the bar-- you will not be able to perform abrupt maneuvering without risking roll-over. If you drive at highway speeds (55mph+) with it off-- you are needlessly risking your safety and the safety of those around you. |
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| Author: | RespectMyLibertay [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:08 am ] |
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I have driven with my front and rear swaybar off in all sorts of conditions, including highway  It was horrible...but I shouldn't have done it because if I had to dodge anything I would have been toast for sure! The biggest problem with the front swaybar off is that when you turn, the end of the KJ you're turning towards raises, the opposite side dips. This is the scary part...but it's kinda fun to send passengers flying on turns when they don't think the KJ can lean that much!
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| Author: | jcphoto20 [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:55 am ] |
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again, are you guys saying you have experience with leaving the rear bar on when the front is removed? i have had no stability issues even driving 80 and having to avoid things. in my car with just the rear bar, it doesnt dip with the opposite corner rising, both front and rear lean the same amout, doesnt seem excessive or scare me at all. |
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| Author: | Jeger [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:39 am ] |
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Maybe yours seeming more stable has something to do with the fact that it is prelowered? |
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| Author: | KJ04 [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:50 am ] |
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He also doesn't have a lift kit on it. If he lifts it with bigger tires and gets 4 inches + higher, I'll bet he changes his tune. He'll have all kinds of body roll then. 
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| Author: | Jeepjeepster [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:26 am ] |
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Its been discussed before that the rear bar really isnt a sway bar at all.. Its actually just adds strength to the rear control arms. |
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| Author: | Skyjump136 [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:50 am ] |
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I'm assuming those 1950s and earlier cars didn't have an IFS like the KJ though...big difference. |
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| Author: | ATXKJ [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:58 pm ] |
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by default they did - i.e. 1950's cars are not 4wd therefore front wheels are independant - and equivalent ot a Liberty with the front bar removed. |
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| Author: | spoonplugger1 [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:35 pm ] |
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Cars had independent front suspension from the early 50's, about the same time as they got double U joints in the drive shafts. If I remember right the Packards and Studebakers were the first. |
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| Author: | jcphoto20 [ Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:29 am ] |
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so still, none of you actually have any practical experience with just the rear bar installed and the front removed. and yes i had it like this with larger 245/75 16 dunlops, 31.0 in when new. thats still a couple inches taller than stock. and yes i know that it is more stable since its a prelowered, thats how they lowered them, with weaker springs! |
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