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Author:  ARBSeth [ Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Old Man Emu KJ Long Rear shocks are IN!!!
The rumors where true! N132L KJ rear's are in our warehouse and ready for preorder from our friends at All J Products. So call or email Quinn and Heather and get yourself a set!

They're the same N132 we currently sell, only 2" longer to accomodate the Frankenlift and other 2.5" - 3" Lifts!

Be patient, they're moving shop right now, so an email might be best!

Enjoy!
Author:  Science_Guy [ Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:51 pm ]
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Nice!! Price?
Author:  Jeepjeepster [ Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:21 pm ]
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sweet, may pick me a set up. Always wanted alittle more flex. 8)

Would also like a price. :wink:
Author:  Heather [ Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:58 pm ]
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Happy New Year!
The info for the new long travel Old Man Emu shocks can be found here:

http://boulderbars.com/OME-N132L_jeep_l ... shocks.htm

Pre-orders will be taken starting January 8th - a special pre-order price for the long travel shocks will apply only until January 25th.... :!:

Also look at the 2007 New Year Sales Event here:

http://boulderbars.com/newyearsale.htm

:D
Author:  2006KJSPORT4x4 [ Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:09 pm ]
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Sweet action Heather....that is some great pricing...I'll be saving what I can till the 25th and probably making a big purchase...but we shall see....thanks for your support of the HOBBY!!!!
Author:  OzLtd [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:56 am ]
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Seth, got some homework for you.

I think i'm speaking on behalf of alot of people out there but, what are the exact extended and compressed measurements of these new shocks ?

Thanks
Author:  Heather [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:46 am ]
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2006KJSPORT4x4 wrote:
Sweet action Heather....that is some great pricing...I'll be saving what I can till the 25th and probably making a big purchase...but we shall see....thanks for your support of the HOBBY!!!!


Glad you like the Pre-Sale pricing! We did our best to keep the price similar to other OME "N" shocks -- even though these particular shocks were designed specifically for the application of a lifted Liberty and a lot of R&D work went into them. Basically we had to buy A LOT of them to get the price down to where it was fair for you all..... hopefully we made the right decision buying so many of the new N132L shocks and every lifted KJ owner will want to have a pair of these unbelievable shocks on his/her lifted Liberty.

We know you are going to LOVE them! And, of course OME will stand behind them with their usual warranty. :wink:

We understand your passion for this HOBBY! Sometimes we think our passion for this hobby is more insanity for the hobby! :lol: With five Jeeps of our own, most of them old and needing our promise of “this is going to be our rebuild project” to actually happen, we totally know what you mean by loving this hobby – we find that we just need the time to work on our “little love projects.” Time never seems to give way for us.

Have a good one....save up that $$ and we'll talk to you soon! :)
Author:  PBrug [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:24 am ]
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I was just getting ready to purchase some Rancho RSX's to pair with the OME HD springs I've had sitting around for a few months, now you guys post this.

So I have to ask, for someone who will be doing limited off-roading and nothing that extreme, is it worth spending the extra $$$ for these OME shocks or would the Rancho's do the job?

If these would be the better choice, why so? Better ride, warranty???

Would these match well with Rancho's on the front, with OME HD springs?

Thanks
Author:  Universeman [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:43 am ]
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Will these need the daystar rear bump stops?
Author:  ARBSeth [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:55 pm ]
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Existing N132's are 573 and 359 mm respective.
New N132L's are 630 and 395 mm.

Long story short, Quinn explained that the Rancho's he had spec'd on the original FL had about 2" more travel than our KJ rear. So we did some R & D and came up with these. The basic difference is the valving. The Rancho uses what's called Foam Cell valving. Ours is Deflective disc. I can talk about it for days, but most of you should know the difference. By using discs, you get more travel out of a shock that is the same length as a comparable foam cell, and you have a much more reliable dampenig system for the shock. Also, ours are a twin wall design which means longer wear and more oil in there.

Better ride, more travel... good stuff. The valving system is a little more complicated, that's why it costs more, but trust me, it's worth every penny.
Author:  DaveKJ02 [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:05 pm ]
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So how does the rear ball joint like the extra travel?
Author:  PBrug [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:10 pm ]
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ARBSeth wrote:
Long story short, Quinn explained that the Rancho's he had spec'd on the original FL had about 2" more travel than our KJ rear. So we did some R & D and came up with these. The basic difference is the valving. The Rancho uses what's called Foam Cell valving. Ours is Deflective disc. I can talk about it for days, but most of you should know the difference. By using discs, you get more travel out of a shock that is the same length as a comparable foam cell, and you have a much more reliable dampenig system for the shock. Also, ours are a twin wall design which means longer wear and more oil in there.

Better ride, more travel... good stuff. The valving system is a little more complicated, that's why it costs more, but trust me, it's worth every penny.



Thanks

I think I'll spend the little extra and order a set of these new OME's.

Going with the Rancho's up front with these on the rear would be OK I assume?

The front Ranchos are far less expensive then the OME's and my budget is limited.
Author:  ARBSeth [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:18 pm ]
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Re: Rear Ball Joint. Not a problem. As I said, the existing Rancho is a longer shock that provides the same amount of travel. The ORIGINAL N132 was smaller and designed for our shorter lift. By adding the 2" of travel tp make the N132L, we equaled that of the existing Rancho which has been used for a few years now... make sense?

As for the Rancho fronts, it's the same thing. I get more travel out of mine than you would with your Rancho and my ride is a little better. Worth paying for in my opinion. Of course I'm biased, but ask around to the guys who upgraded their FL to an OME strut and they'll tell you the same thing. What is it JJ says? "Cost is soon forgotten, quality is not"

Works for me, anyway.
Author:  Jeephead1977 [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:36 pm ]
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So now the big question is will we be able to get the frankenlift with these shocks and emu struts :) just wishful thinking maybe hehe :P
Author:  Rock Lizard [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:43 pm ]
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Jeephead1977 wrote:
So now the big question is will we be able to get the frankenlift with these shocks and emu struts :) just wishful thinking maybe hehe :P


Anything can be upgraded. :twisted:

Even though the OME's are a bit more expensive than the Ranchos, they are well worth it. I have a set of OME's front and rear on my Cherokee, bought them used with about 15,000 miles on them, and I have put another 50,000 some miles on them. I took them off recently and threw on a cheap set of Edelbrock hydros because I figured the OME's were about at their end. Wow, the ride quality sucked so bad, I got rid of the Edelbrocks a month later and have those 65,000 mile old OME's back on my XJ, and they still ride great. They are definately due for a change, but I will only replace them with OME's or most likely Bilsteins since the OME lengths will not work with my newlift/suspension configuration.

I don't know if the bugs have been worked out with the OME struts, but I would recommend jumping on the OME rears, especially on that preorder price, because that price isn't much different from the Ranchos.
Author:  Jeepjeepster [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:55 pm ]
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Rock Lizard wrote:
Jeephead1977 wrote:
So now the big question is will we be able to get the frankenlift with these shocks and emu struts :) just wishful thinking maybe hehe :P


Anything can be upgraded. :twisted:

Even though the OME's are a bit more expensive than the Ranchos, they are well worth it. I have a set of OME's front and rear on my Cherokee, bought them used with about 15,000 miles on them, and I have put another 50,000 some miles on them. I took them off recently and threw on a cheap set of Edelbrock hydros because I figured the OME's were about at their end. Wow, the ride quality sucked so bad, I got rid of the Edelbrocks a month later and have those 65,000 mile old OME's back on my XJ, and they still ride great. They are definately due for a change, but I will only replace them with OME's or most likely Bilsteins since the OME lengths will not work with my newlift/suspension configuration.

I don't know if the bugs have been worked out with the OME struts, but I would recommend jumping on the OME rears, especially on that preorder price, because that price isn't much different from the Ranchos.


What bugs do you speak of? Was someone having problems with the OME front shocks?
Author:  Rock Lizard [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:02 pm ]
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Jeepjeepster wrote:
What bugs do you speak of? Was someone having problems with the OME front shocks?


I don't know the exact details, but Quinn or Heather can explain. That's why you can't get the Frankenlift with the OME struts right now. The ride quality is still awesome on the OME front struts, but there was a fitment or mounting issue that needed to be resolved.
Author:  Heather [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:11 pm ]
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Rock Lizard wrote:
Jeepjeepster wrote:
What bugs do you speak of? Was someone having problems with the OME front shocks?


I don't know the exact details, but Quinn or Heather can explain. That's why you can't get the Frankenlift with the OME struts right now. The ride quality is still awesome on the OME front struts, but there was a fitment or mounting issue that needed to be resolved.


Just to clear things up, there are no bugs with the OME struts....they are designed perfectly. We interruped the use of them in the GAS Frankenlifts until the new front puck was redesigned. We got the redesign and need to test them out before we offer them in the GAS Frankenlift again. Should be only another couple of weeks. We can also use the 926 medium springs instead of the heavy duty springs if the vehicle doesn't have an ARB bumper and winch.

Background: When an OME strut was used with the GAS Frankenlift (using the heavy duty OME spring), the heavy duty spring didn't soften enough for a few vehicles (again not a problem with OME, just a spring rate solution). What seemed to happen (for a few people who did not have a heavy ARB bumper and/or winch) was that the heavy duty spring rate affected the clevis height. This clevis height was the issue at hand and hence we redesigned a new puck that would correct this. Not very many OME strut kits were affected, and those that were we corrected for the customer already. :D

Oh...and to answer the question about if the Frankenlift will be available with the new OME-N132L shocks, YES! We will need to figure out the price difference, but it will be very comparable and worth it. I'm sure we will end up discontinuing the Rancho rear shocks in the kit since the OME brand is much more desireable and the quality can't be beat for this application.
Author:  Rock Lizard [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:17 pm ]
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Ah, see that is why you ask Heather or Quinn.:D I wasn't sure what the fitment or mounting issue bug was, but it was apparently the spacer issue, not the strut itself. In that case, I would be all over a complete OME KJ suspension if I had a KJ. Get'r done. :twisted:
Author:  OzLtd [ Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:53 pm ]
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ARBSeth wrote:
Existing N132's are 573 and 359 mm respective.
New N132L's are 630 and 395 mm.


Seth this is worrying to me.

With the amount of extensive testing I have done on the 2 KJ's i've owned over the years, i've managed to repeatedly compress the rear shock down to 377-380mm, hence why the factory shock is 360mm compressed.

This test was with the restrictive rear swaybar on and full vehicle weight on it.
Stock Foam Bumpstops were squashed to the limit and the car could not compress any further.
This was with an empty vehicle, imagine what additional force would be given if the vehicle had passengers and luggage in it.

This is the exact same beef I have with the Rancho RSX 17004's off the shelf. No one mentions you should have a bumpstop added, these "new" OME shocks are in the exact same potential failure prone boat as the Rancho's - they are the same measurements.

This is why I added a 35mm bumpstop, why? because a 35mm bumpstop took the max compression down to 400mm, and I believe I got it as low as 395mm once.

I hope you guys suggest lengthening your bumpstops somehow in the 'instructions' sheet.
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