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ANY ONE HAVE A LOCK-RIGHT IN THE FRONT ?
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Author:  Gringo Loco [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:  ANY ONE HAVE A LOCK-RIGHT IN THE FRONT ?
Hey guys is anyone using a LOCK-RIGHT Locker in their front diff. My 4x4 guy is recommending it and wanted to get opinions. He quoted me $430 installed. Any help would be great.


Thanx
Author:  swyszomirski [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:40 pm ]
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Can the front diff take a locker? since it is not steel.
Author:  renegadekj [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:02 pm ]
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" In some vehicles, you will hear a light clicking noise as the gears are overrunning themselves and allowing the wheels to differentiate in a turn. This is normal of most lockers on the market today. We recommend the LOCK-RIGHT for vehicles that are primarily driven in severe driving conditions or are used for recreational off-road. For vehicles that are driven daily or require more mainstream application." If this is what they say about their product then i would listen to them! That is if u are going to use it as a daily vehicle on the road. I personally dont have one but have looked into various locker options and so far I myself like the arb for the rear and either a detroit truetrac for the front or a arb. I think the arb for the front because it will not affect your on road every day driving performance, Turn it on when u need it and turn it off when u dont :D .,
Author:  Jeepin Al [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:45 pm ]
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I was always told, since a wee pup, that full lockers on front ends with un-lockable hubs (engaged all the time) is a real big NO-NO.

It is in dangerous, it will make steering the KJ very interesting. Even with the true trac I have in the front, you can feel the limited slip pull on the wheel as it hunts to deliver power. It is an interesting feeling having the wheel pull just so slightly side to side as you drive down the highway in 2wd.

Al
Author:  renegadekj [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:55 pm ]
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Al
I have heard that A full locker in the front has damaged some of those alum diff housings also but i would like to know how hard the guys were beating it!!! Ive also been told that a front arb locker would be better than a truetrac due to that it would be engaged only when u want/need it, and that the spinning/slipping of the tires wildly and then them grabing firm traction is what does the damage. I would think that that would occur more with a truetrac then a arb! This is what i have been told anyway ....i have never had one in YET!!! Any real info wil be appreciated ....iam willing to learn new things all the time :)
Josh
Author:  Jeepin Al [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:07 pm ]
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ARB I believe doesn't recommend their locker for the front, due to the case. Several on the board have wheeled with the ARB and have not had any problems. I have wheeled hard with my true trac, but I do keep the wheel spin to minimum. If I get in trouble I back down and try again, I am not one to floor it to make it over an obstacle. I do have trouble with the true trac, I don't know if its getting old, but sometimes only one wheel will spin.

I would recommend at this point if you have the money to go with the ARB. If not and you need to go cheap, get a true trac. Stay away from full locked front if it is your daily driver. And stay off the gas when you are out wheelin' Some blown cases have occured during slow driving with no strain on the front end, which is odd, but once the alum is strained over and over, it is not like steel, it will fail.

I would try the pinion collar too!

Hope this helps, anyone else want to pitch in and help?

Al
Author:  renegadekj [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:46 pm ]
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Al
Thanks for the information :D .
Author:  OzLtd [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:05 am ]
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Jeepin Al wrote:
ARB I believe doesn't recommend their locker for the front, due to the case. Several on the board have wheeled with the ARB and have not had any problems. I have wheeled hard with my true trac, but I do keep the wheel spin to minimum. If I get in trouble I back down and try again, I am not one to floor it to make it over an obstacle. I do have trouble with the true trac, I don't know if its getting old, but sometimes only one wheel will spin.

I would recommend at this point if you have the money to go with the ARB. If not and you need to go cheap, get a true trac. Stay away from full locked front if it is your daily driver. And stay off the gas when you are out wheelin' Some blown cases have occured during slow driving with no strain on the front end, which is odd, but once the alum is strained over and over, it is not like steel, it will fail.

I would try the pinion collar too!

Hope this helps, anyone else want to pitch in and help?

Al


Naa you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Speaking of diff colars, has anyone made or adapted one to the CRD ?
Author:  Eddo [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:11 am ]
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Just as Al mention, I wouldn't put a automatic locker in the front of a DD unless it had locking, hubs which the KJ does not. I'd go with an ARB.

Plus if you do want to use 4wd on the road (snow, ice, etc), steering becomes quite interesting. I had one in the front of my CJ, and with the hubs locked in 4wd, lets just say it was almost scary.

Personally, I would think a locker especially a selectable locker like the ARB would actually help keep the front diff in once piece. Seems most failures occur due to excessive wheel spin. A locker will definitely limit slip and wheel spin, so it could have a beneficial effect.

Also according to ARB_Seth, the recommendation to not use the ARB locker is a myth and that is not ARB's stance.
Author:  ATXKJ [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:15 pm ]
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Oz
Last weekend I bolted on one of the original steel collars and it looks like I have enough clearance not to rattle - (I'm not certain because I haven't been off road enough to rattle anything) - I'll get some pictures this weekend and compare to the Aluminum ones.
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