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| Author: | Mutt [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | *URGENT* JeepinAl a arms *URGENT* |
First and foremost, this is not an attack on Al, his product, or any attempt to disparage his name. I strongly urge everyone of you that has his arms to inspect the welds for stress fractures. Today at Uwharrie National Forest, my KJ suffered a catastrophic failure while wheeling. The drivers side a arm broke (forward) completely free at the UBJ bung. The rear side of the arm at the bung had a stress fracture through the weld. IMHO the fillet weld was insufficient for the structural strength required for this part. It also looked like insufficient fusion in the weld. Pictures and more to follow after I get some sleep. Thanks to Meredith (JeepinMama), Bill (DirtyKJ), and Mike (Kolesy) for their support and help. |
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| Author: | Mutt [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:00 am ] |
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| Author: | Neatus [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:25 am ] |
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wow 
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| Author: | DarbyWalters [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:47 am ] |
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Just glad that happenned while wheelin' slow and not drivin' fast |
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| Author: | OzLtd [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:03 am ] |
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wow, like darby said, glad it happened whislt going slow (I hope?) Can you describe the exact moment that it went bang ? Uphill, downhill, accelerating, decelerating ? ect ect ? |
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| Author: | gopherbeats [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:58 am ] |
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wow!.. What did that sound like?... |
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| Author: | Jeepjeepster [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:17 am ] |
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Ive always been worried about the welds on those.. One of the reasons Ive not gotten them. 
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| Author: | Eddo [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:21 am ] |
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Wow, guess I remember to carry an extra upper a-arm when I go wheeling now. Good thing it didn't happen cruising down the highway at 70-75mph. Mutt, any tips on inspecting the welds? |
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| Author: | PBrug [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:45 am ] |
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Sorry to hear about the trail damage. For a lot of reasons, I hope this is an isolated incident (one bad weld, really hard hit, etc..) and not something we all need to worry about. I'll probably never push my KJ to the limits in which Mutt does (never seen him in action but I've read stories), but I just want to know my KJ is safe for myself and my family. Any more details on the breakage would be appreciated. |
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| Author: | Jeepin Al [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:10 am ] |
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WOW ,
Please send the set back to me so I can see what happen. I am at work right now, I am not to sure when you ordered them from me. I want to see what hapen. It appears the weld penetration was not great enough. Al This is the first, I have not experienced any other failures with arms. Some minor bushing problems when they were welded in, but no failures, even on the sets I have on my KJ. I had placed a third generation set on when I went to the 5.5 inch lift. |
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| Author: | Mutt [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:29 pm ] |
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Well, there are four lines on Kodak rock, increasing in difficulty from left to right. I was on the third line from the left and darn near made it up. Was bumping it up the ledge when I heard a "Tink", thinking to myself, "Well, there goes a JE Real CV." When I looked out the window though, my wheel was at an angle that wasn't natural. Al, had to weld it up so I don't know what you could tell by viewing it. Put some hot 7018 on it to get me home. We did our best to get it realigned before welding but roadside repairs are far from perfect. I didn't get my arms directly from you Al, you had a backorder and I was impatient. Ben from Carolina LOST sold me his set and ordered another set from you. Eddo, I'd remove the paint/powdercoat and look for any signs of cracking in the weld. A magnifying glass sure would help. I wouldn't go so far as getting some dye penetrant to help highlite any indicators. |
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| Author: | KJ04 [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:28 pm ] |
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Awe, it just sounds like a bad case of driver abuse, probably nothing to worry about 
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| Author: | Mutt [ Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:04 pm ] |
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JeepinAl has the best customer service I've ever seen. A new set is on the way. |
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| Author: | Joe Jeeper [ Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Al's upper A arms |
Checked my welds today appear to be fine! Joe
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| Author: | Blue KJ in PA [ Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:08 pm ] |
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Mutt wrote: JeepinAl has the best customer service I've ever seen. A new set is on the way.
JeepinAl, All J,and Rock Lizzard are cream of the crop in our meager list of KJ specialists but they are also the best when compared to anyone. Just need Marty to get some lizzard stickers....that would be 
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| Author: | desertkj [ Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:19 pm ] |
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Blue KJ in PA wrote: Mutt wrote: JeepinAl has the best customer service I've ever seen. A new set is on the way. JeepinAl and MArty RockLizzard are cream of the crop in our meager list of KJ specialists but they are also the best when compared to anyone. I'll agree with that. 
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| Author: | Tokyojoe [ Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:43 am ] |
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...and ALL J |
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| Author: | Blue KJ in PA [ Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:48 am ] |
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Tokyojoe wrote: ...and ALL J Yep...been working insanely long hours last week and a 1/2...All J slipped my mind.
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| Author: | 06LTD [ Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Had the same thing just happen |
Last Saturday I had a weld break on my new Gen IVs. It was the driver side forward piece, also. They've been on about six weeks. Only one day of moderate wheeling in Calico a couple of weeks ago. Otherwise, nothing too difficult. Saturday was a pretty easy trail. I didn't hear any noise except rubbing from the front end after it broke. I don't have any pictures, but it looks just like Mutt's, except mine are red. Gave JeepinbyAl a call this morning, explained the problem and in less than an hour, my replacement set was waiting for the UPS man. Can't beat the service. Steve |
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| Author: | Endurance [ Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Had the same thing just happen |
06LTD wrote: Last Saturday I had a weld break on my new Gen IVs. It was the driver side forward piece, also. They've been on about six weeks. Only one day of moderate wheeling in Calico a couple of weeks ago. Otherwise, nothing too difficult. Saturday was a pretty easy trail. I didn't hear any noise except rubbing from the front end after it broke. I don't have any pictures, but it looks just like Mutt's, except mine are red. Gave JeepinbyAl a call this morning, explained the problem and in less than an hour, my replacement set was waiting for the UPS man. Can't beat the service.
Steve Isnt that extremely dangerous? What if the arm breaks at 70mph? |
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