YES!
Another lifted KJ! I'm happy for you man, can't wait to see the pics! Oh, by the way, which rear springs did you get? OME or Skyjacker?
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| Author: | RespectMyLibertay [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | A quick question on my Frankenlift before install |
I'm installing my Frankenlift early Saturday (tomorrow) morning. Today I was looking at the parts thoroughly to get a better understanding of what was going to happen, and I noticed something about one of the struts. The spacer between the Old Man Emu spring and the Rancho strut has a little notch in it. This notch is a perfect fit for this little lip that the strut has where the spacer is pushed up against it. In one of the struts, this notch is over the lip, where it looks like it should be. In the other strut, this same notch is an inch or so from the lip, which pushes the spacer out a very little amount, just enough to make that part of the spacer's edge a fraction of an inch from being flat again the strut. Is this bad? Should I not be worried? I was just wondering about the uniformity of it, and if I should try to line the notch and lip up on the second strut? Also, one of the struts has a plastic rectangle fastened against the spacer part with a metal ring (zip-tie looking thing) going around the spacer holding that rectangle in place. The other was sent with these two things, but in a seperate bag. I'm assuming I would put these on the same way the other was already on. I am looking to see what exactly theses are, though? Also, how do I install the bumpstops...and are they for the front or rear? Sorry for all the questions, but I tried to call All-J this afternoon and just got the answering machine. Hopefully, someone from All-J or a Frankenlift user can chime in. Thanks in advance for any help ASAP. |
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| Author: | Wasatch15 [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:16 am ] |
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The plastic rectangle is so the upper control arm has a soft place to rest against when your suspension is at full extension or it would hit the side of the strut spring. Both of these plastic parts and their hose clamps mount in the same way on their strut (driver side or passenger side). The bump stop goes on the lower rear spring perch. Before installing the new spring, you will have to mark the center of this perch and drill a hole using a 90 degree drill motor and the proper sized drill bit. Then place a piece of tape (I used electrical tape) around the threaded shaft of the bump stop and hang one from the inside of each new spring, use your bottle jack to widen the distance between the spring perches and install the new spring. Now you will be able to remove the tape from the bump stop and it will already be on the inside of the spring, ready to be lowered into place in the hole you previously drilled. Before you start installation if the lift, you will need your original jeep bottle jack and a suitable floor jack. I just installed my Frankenlift over the Labor Day weekend and the front end will require the most patients to install. I have a document I made outlining the steps I took to install mine. If you would like a copy before you start please e-mail me at Wasatch15@aol.com and I'd be happy to send you a copy. P.S. Before you start taking things apart on the front end, carefully and clearly, mark the position of all four lower control arm alignment bolt settings as you will be removing these to get the lower bolt of the clevis connected to the lower control arm. I also have a list of the correct torque values for all the bolts if you need them. Be careful during the install, Ron |
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| Author: | Skyjump136 [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:07 am ] |
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Can you show us a picture? It sounds like things might not be lined up quite right. If nothing else CALL QUINN. He will know exactly what needs to be done, if anything. |
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| Author: | Eddo [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:57 am ] |
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Wasatch15 wrote: use your bottle jack to widen the distance between the spring perches and install the new spring.
P.S. Before you start taking things apart on the front end, carefully and clearly, mark the position of all four lower control arm alignment bolt settings as you will be removing these to get the lower bolt of the clevis connected to the lower control arm. I also have a list of the correct torque values for all the bolts if you need them. Good point on the rear by using the bottle jack. Work really well if you are by yourself or can't get anyone heavy enough. However, I don't think you need to remove the lower control arms or their bolts. |
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| Author: | Skyjump136 [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:22 pm ] |
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Eddo, quite a few people have had to drop the lower control arms to get the front situated. I had to and it made things way easier. |
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| Author: | RespectMyLibertay [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | I'm lifted! |
I had the guy who helped me install look at the spacer situation; he said it was too small of a difference to matter much. So we installed as planned today; it took us from 10 AM to 4PM to get it all done. We ended up dropping the A-frame (lower-control arm), making it SO much easier to get the strut up in there. It looks so darn good. Pics are soon to come!!! |
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| Author: | Skyjump136 [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:20 pm ] |
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Glad you guys got it done! Congrats. Now we just need to get that thing out on the trails! BTW, make sure you go get an alignment ASAP. |
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| Author: | RespectMyLibertay [ Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Noises |
Yeh, I will definitely be hitting up some trails as soon as I can earlier next week. I'm also getting tires on here before winter. Update Post-Lift: I was drove about 30 miles throughout town after completing the install. I was hearing two distinctly odd noises. One was coming from the rear suspension (coil springs?), and it only sounded when turning from a stop. Is this just springs settling in? The other was a rattle somewhere behind the driver's seat, that occurs when I accelerate from a stop. It kind of sounds like some part of my exhaust is rattling against my engine/tranny skid, but I'm not sure exactly. Any ideas? I'm going to jack up the Liberty again tomorrow to check and tighten things. |
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| Author: | Edwin [ Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:33 am ] |
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YES! Another lifted KJ! I'm happy for you man, can't wait to see the pics! Oh, by the way, which rear springs did you get? OME or Skyjacker?
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| Author: | SethX9 [ Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:48 am ] |
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October 1st I'm phoning my order in to the folks at All J and I've got my best friend onboard for helping me w/the install.....I feel like a kid a few days before Christmas!! |
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| Author: | Skyjump136 [ Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:29 am ] |
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Take a can of silicone spray and start hitting all of the bushings and spring isolators with that. If you only do a few at a time it can help narrow down where the sound is coming from. For the first couple weeks I got some weird noises from my front springs. It was almost like a popping sound. Once everything settled in and the bushings got worn a bit it quited down. I did call Quinn at that time and he said sometimes the powdercoat on the springs needs to wear off a little and then the they quiet down. Whatever the case, I had some noise and now its fine. Probably nothing to worry about and can be taken care of with a little detective work. |
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| Author: | RespectMyLibertay [ Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:33 pm ] |
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I looked at the exhaust this morning, and sure enough, it was right up against my newly installed gas tank skid (should have noticed when I bolted it on there!). So I will be taking the skid off and cutting it, again (had to for the hitch receiver earlier). The only other noise I was hearing sounded like the rear springs, but I wasn't hearing it all today while doing some in-town cruising; all I heard was that darn rattle from my exhaust! I will pick up some of that silicone spray to lubricate the bushings and spring isolators soon. I got the Skyjacker springs in the rear. I am so happy to finally have a lift on my Liberty! Tires here I come! BTW Pics are gonna be on here by the end of the day. Should I post them in this thread or start new one in the KJ Pics Forum? |
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| Author: | USAFCOP [ Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:32 pm ] |
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as for your sound, check your brake lines where they go throught the hangers on the axle. Since your axle is in a different location (lower) the cables may be rubbing on the metal hangers a bit. Easy fix, cut some rubber vapor hose and slip it over the brake lines then zip tie it in place. YOu could also try to bend the metal guide brackets to match the angle the brake line enters. I dunno but I got my springs in easy, all i did was jack up one side of the body (forcing the other side to stuff) then just slid the spring in. I was surprised it was so easy. |
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| Author: | priell3 [ Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:45 pm ] |
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RespectMyLibertay wrote: I am so happy to finally have a lift on my Liberty! Tires here I come!
Did you have the "toe" of the front end alignment checked? You don't want to wear out your current or future tires. Lift looks great. |
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