not always theres a 4 cyl laying here in Toledo with 4.10s in the rear 8.25, front diff is gone though,
or at least thats what the tag said 
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| Author: | jb'sKJ [ Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | rear axel |
hi, i have a tab on my rear axel which has 4.1 on it. anyone know which axel i have, the dana or chrysler? i'd like to get a diff guard on. my kj is a 2002/03 model, 2.4 with manual gearbox. thanks jonathan |
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| Author: | bugnout [ Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:12 pm ] |
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THE 4.1 means 4:10 gears, the diff is probably the Chrysler 8.25 |
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| Author: | tommudd [ Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:16 pm ] |
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may not be an 8.25 as some of the ones (or maybe all) that were exported had Dana 35s I think esp back in those early model years, may want to double check, this is just from talking to some of the ones who built them |
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| Author: | bugnout [ Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:24 pm ] |
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This link will help with the identification http://truckparts-specialists.com/catalog/differentials/axle-and-differential-picture-guide.htm |
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| Author: | Jeepjeepster [ Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:26 pm ] |
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4bangers got the dana 35 didnt they? |
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| Author: | tommudd [ Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:08 pm ] |
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not always theres a 4 cyl laying here in Toledo with 4.10s in the rear 8.25, front diff is gone though, or at least thats what the tag said
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| Author: | jb'sKJ [ Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:16 pm ] |
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thanks folks, especially for that link 'bugnout'; i'll get under her again in the light tomorrow (it's 11.15pm here) and see if i can spot the difference between the two pics and my axel... yours jonathan |
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| Author: | jereosbou [ Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:23 pm ] |
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chrysler is square on bottom danas round easy to spot.... |
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| Author: | myjeepwalks [ Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:43 pm ] |
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Jeepjeepster wrote: 4bangers got the dana 35 didnt they?
that's what i thought. 
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| Author: | Albert [ Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:51 pm ] |
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myjeepwalks wrote: Jeepjeepster wrote: 4bangers got the dana 35 didnt they? that's what i thought. Yup, that's what I thought also. The D35 with 4:10 gears. I have never actually seen one and they could have changed it I suppose. The axle should have a tag on it too (drivers side) showing both axle model and gears. |
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| Author: | jb'sKJ [ Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:14 pm ] |
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i've had a look this evening and a dana 35 it is. thanks once again for that picture link 'bugnout'. yours jonathan 
happy halloween all! |
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| Author: | tommudd [ Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:26 pm ] |
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I thought all 4 cyl had the 35s as well until I ran into this one in a junk, whoops recycling yard and they said they had one with 4.10s in the back, thought I had found my source for 4.10s!! front diff was gone, motor/ trans there, rear axle bent
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| Author: | Rush345 [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Great info |
That was very interesting I will have to study it , but I have one little peice of confision as I have heard I think that the Dana 30 and the Dana 30A have the same cover . How does one tell the difference, I beleive from what I have read their is a big difference in the 2 I think. Also I think I've seen some one using one diff in the rear and a different one in the front. Why doesn't this cause a conflic??
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| Author: | carroll952 [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great info |
Rush345 wrote: That was very interesting I will have to study it , but I have one little peice of confision as I have heard I think that the Dana 30 and the Dana 30A have the same cover . How does one tell the difference, I beleive from what I have read their is a big difference in the 2 I think. Also I think I've seen some one using one diff in the rear and a different one in the front. Why doesn't this cause a conflic??
There are multiple versions of the dana 30. The one our KJs and the KKs have is the Dana 30a. It has an aluminum housing and a longer pinion. All KJs and KKs come with this diff in the front. Some KJs have had a Dana 35 in the rear. These look very different from the 8.25 that most KJs and the KKs have. A Dana 35 is round whereas an 8.25 is has a flat bottom. Also it turns out some '02 South American KJs came with a Dana 44. |
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| Author: | Rush345 [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great info |
carroll952 wrote: Rush345 wrote: That was very interesting I will have to study it , but I have one little peice of confision as I have heard I think that the Dana 30 and the Dana 30A have the same cover . How does one tell the difference, I beleive from what I have read their is a big difference in the 2 I think. Also I think I've seen some one using one diff in the rear and a different one in the front. Why doesn't this cause a conflic?? There are multiple versions of the dana 30. The one our KJs and the KKs have is the Dana 30a. It has an aluminum housing and a longer pinion. All KJs and KKs come with this diff in the front. Some KJs have had a Dana 35 in the rear. These look very different from the 8.25 that most KJs and the KKs have. A Dana 35 is round whereas an 8.25 is has a flat bottom. Also it turns out some '02 South American KJs came with a Dana 44. Do they have the same gearing in the front and back???
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| Author: | tommudd [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:38 am ] |
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They better have !!!! |
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| Author: | tommudd [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:38 am ] |
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They better have !!!! |
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| Author: | jb'sKJ [ Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | not a 35 apparently! |
hi again! i got my diff guard and it doesn't fit! so i guess i can't have a 35. the diff cover is round and looks like a 35 cover, but the diff casing (aluminium) is flat on the bottom. so do i have a chrysler diff? the only tab on the diff just has 4.1 on it. i don't think i have a 30 as the cover does not look at all like it does on this link (from bugnout) http://truckparts-specialists.com/catal ... -guide.htm would anyone (who knows what axel they have) like to take a measurement for me, from the lowest (& center) bolt up to the next one and then again to the next, like in an arc starting from the lowest (& center) bolt. in metric if possible. then i would know if i have the same axel and which it is. i guess if the kj was never fitted with a dana 30 then i must have the chrysler 8.25 or? help much appreciated jonathan |
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| Author: | jb'sKJ [ Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | my own reply |
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Jeep_Liber ... er_8.25%22 i went here and this is what it looks like under my kj. wish i'd thought of it before.... yours jonathan |
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| Author: | Christopher [ Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:46 pm ] |
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Your talking about the back right? dana 30 is a front not rear. if its flat accross the botton its the 8.25 even though the cover is pretty round. A dana will had a d35 stamped on cast of the differential. Chris |
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