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Author:  jason thompson [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Power trax

OK I know the in and outs of a full time auto locker ,I have on in the TJ
what I need to know is the one for a 8.25 in a XJ the same as the one for
the 8.25 in a KJ

Something in the back of my head tells me no but just in case
I may be able to get one cheep to very cheep
it is used well very used and wheeled quite hard but I figure if the price is right I can get it and a rebuild kit for
1/2 the cost of a new unit

let me know what you know

Author:  JPaul [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:38 pm ]
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You might just want to contact powertrax, or check the part numbers, that would tell you.

Author:  jason thompson [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:48 pm ]
Post subject: 

JPaul wrote:
You might just want to contact powertrax, or check the part numbers, that would tell you.


yeah but that would be to easy I was hoping that some one here would just know off the top of there head
the guy selling it works for a shop that sells power trax's he could find out tomarow
he is going from stock t-case and axles to Atlas and 60's
I want to scoup up the locker(s) from his stock axles and put them in the KJ
but I want to fly under the radar and keep the wife out of the loope
I want to have them here and the day she gets a new ride I will throw the power trax in the rear
then work it out so I get the ARB in the front soon after

Author:  tjkj2002 [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power trax

jason thompson wrote:
OK I know the in and outs of a full time auto locker ,I have on in the TJ
what I need to know is the one for a 8.25 in a XJ the same as the one for
the 8.25 in a KJ

Something in the back of my head tells me no but just in case
I may be able to get one cheep to very cheep
it is used well very used and wheeled quite hard but I figure if the price is right I can get it and a rebuild kit for
1/2 the cost of a new unit

let me know what you know
As long as it's for a 29-spline 8.25 and for your correct carrier(open or trac-loc) it will work.

Author:  jason thompson [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power trax

tjkj2002 wrote:
jason thompson wrote:
OK I know the in and outs of a full time auto locker ,I have on in the TJ
what I need to know is the one for a 8.25 in a XJ the same as the one for
the 8.25 in a KJ

Something in the back of my head tells me no but just in case
I may be able to get one cheep to very cheep
it is used well very used and wheeled quite hard but I figure if the price is right I can get it and a rebuild kit for
1/2 the cost of a new unit

let me know what you know
As long as it's for a 29-spline 8.25 and for your correct carrier(open or trac-loc) it will work.


OK that is what I wanted to know
thanks

Author:  wildrussian [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power trax

jason thompson wrote:
OK I know the in and outs of a full time auto locker ,I have on in the TJ
what I need to know is the one for a 8.25 in a XJ the same as the one for
the 8.25 in a KJ

Something in the back of my head tells me no but just in case
I may be able to get one cheep to very cheep
it is used well very used and wheeled quite hard but I figure if the price is right I can get it and a rebuild kit for
1/2 the cost of a new unit

let me know what you know


Is it Lock Right or No Slip?

Author:  jason thompson [ Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Power trax

wildrussian wrote:
jason thompson wrote:
OK I know the in and outs of a full time auto locker ,I have on in the TJ
what I need to know is the one for a 8.25 in a XJ the same as the one for
the 8.25 in a KJ

Something in the back of my head tells me no but just in case
I may be able to get one cheep to very cheep
it is used well very used and wheeled quite hard but I figure if the price is right I can get it and a rebuild kit for
1/2 the cost of a new unit

let me know what you know


Is it Lock Right or No Slip?


No slip
why?

Author:  JPaul [ Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:56 pm ]
Post subject: 

They have a different model for the no slip carrier, I'm betting it's shaped differently so the locker is shaped differently.

Author:  jason thompson [ Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:14 pm ]
Post subject: 

JPaul wrote:
They have a different model for the no slip carrier, I'm betting it's shaped differently so the locker is shaped differently.


no such thing as a "no slip carrier"
the trac loc carrier is different than the open carrier

I thik he is talking about the locker its self
also I think they make 2 different lunch box lockers for the 8.25 a "no slip" made by power trax
and a Lock rite made by eaton ,I think

The no slip is smother but works the same
The no slip is close to 1/2 the cost and way more harsh

Author:  DarbyWalters [ Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:43 pm ]
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Most XJs are a 27 spline I believe

Also different carriers depending on if you have an open rear end or Trac-Lok (Trash-Lok)...so you have to order the one for your carrier

Author:  JJsTJ [ Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:12 pm ]
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DarbyWalters wrote:
Most XJs are a 27 spline I believe

Also different carriers depending on if you have an open rear end or Trac-Lok (Trash-Lok)...so you have to order the one for your carrier


(some say mid 96) 97 and later XJ's got 29 splines.

Author:  JPaul [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:53 am ]
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jason thompson wrote:
JPaul wrote:
They have a different model for the no slip carrier, I'm betting it's shaped differently so the locker is shaped differently.


no such thing as a "no slip carrier"
the trac loc carrier is different than the open carrier

I thik he is talking about the locker its self
also I think they make 2 different lunch box lockers for the 8.25 a "no slip" made by power trax
and a Lock rite made by eaton ,I think

The no slip is smother but works the same
The no slip is close to 1/2 the cost and way more harsh


Duh, sorry, I was thinking the factory LSD carrier when I said that, I completely forgot the No-Slip is the synch'd auto locker from Powertrax. :oops:

Yeah, the only thing to check (other than spline count) is if you have the LSD stock or just the open carrier, THOSE take different versions of the Powertrax locker. I'm going to bed now before I get in any more trouble!

Author:  jason thompson [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:45 am ]
Post subject: 

JJsKJ wrote:
DarbyWalters wrote:
Most XJs are a 27 spline I believe

Also different carriers depending on if you have an open rear end or Trac-Lok (Trash-Lok)...so you have to order the one for your carrier


(some say mid 96) 97 and later XJ's got 29 splines.



I know he was open when it was new
I would bet money that it is 29 spline ,it holds 36" Iroks

Author:  Eddo [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:33 am ]
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jason thompson wrote:
JPaul wrote:
They have a different model for the no slip carrier, I'm betting it's shaped differently so the locker is shaped differently.


no such thing as a "no slip carrier"
the trac loc carrier is different than the open carrier

I thik he is talking about the locker its self
also I think they make 2 different lunch box lockers for the 8.25 a "no slip" made by power trax
and a Lock rite made by eaton ,I think

The no slip is smother but works the same
The no slip is close to 1/2 the cost and way more harsh


Power-trax by Richmond Gear has 2 similar units. The No-Slip and the Lock-right. There website is a little confusing and at times.
Here is the Lock-right
http://www.powertrax.com/lrapplications.html
Here is the No-Slip (sometimes refered to as Powertrax Traction Systems on their site)
http://www.powertrax.com/nsapplications.html

The No-slip is a more refined version of the older Lock-right. It has some syncros and a few other changes. I've experienced both and there is a night and day difference between the two. I had the aussie locker (almost identical to the lock-right, despise what aussielocker says.. take the two side by and and compare they are identical) in another vehicle and it was a nightmare on the road. The no-slip was a pleasant surprise. If you are considering a spider-gear replacement locker (lunchbox style) there are only are few out there and as far as I know the no-slip is the only one that has syncros. It has by far the best road manners of all the other spider gear replacement lockers.

For the KJ there are two of each unit. One for the open carrier and another for the track-loc (factory LSD) carrier.

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