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to use OME NS131 HD struts up front, OME 132L Long Travel shocks, and the OME HD springs all around....... with a spacer lift?? I'm going to be adding an ARB Winch bumper, Rusty's sliders, a kilby gas skid, and a super skid..... pretty much all at the same time while the motor is being replaced.... So I figure i'd upgrade to OME suspension products while i'm at it because of the extra weight... At that point i'm sure i'd need Al's upper A arms as well.... The spacer lift i have is the billet one and i've had it in for a while with no problems at all... rdes a little bumpy but it doesn't bother me at all...

Al's 6" lift is very very possible to do..... but it's not out yet... and i have to be able to accomidate(sp?) the weight of the bull bar and winch..

Author:	jb4204562 [ Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:33 pm ]
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to use OME NS131 HD struts up front, OME 132L Long Travel shocks, and the OME HD springs all around....... with a spacer lift?? I'm going to be adding an ARB Winch bumper, Rusty's sliders, a kilby gas skid, and a super skid..... pretty much all at the same time while the motor is being replaced.... So I figure i'd upgrade to OME suspension products while i'm at it because of the extra weight... At that point i'm sure i'd need Al's upper A arms as well.... The spacer lift i have is the billet one and i've had it in for a while with no problems at all... rdes a little bumpy but it doesn't bother me at all... Al's 6" lift is very very possible to do..... but it's not out yet... and i have to be able to accomidate(sp?) the weight of the bull bar and winch..

Author:	jsc7002 [ Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:38 pm ]
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idk but I was wondering the same thing, Im wanting to do OME coils and rear shocks and Rancho front with daystar 1.2" spacer and it should give me about 3.5" front and 4" rear

Author:	elephantrider [ Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:51 pm ]
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i tried to mount the poly spacer between ome hd's and ome front shocks. wouldnt fit. i couldnt even get the spring to compress enough to fit the poly spacer in there and get the strut plate boted back on. maybe a top plate would work, its basically what they do with the franky front i thought.

Author:	renegadekj [ Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:23 pm ]
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JASONK i believe the frankenlift uses a different top plate!(correct me if I'm wrong)! jsc7002 You would gain much more then 3.5-4" if you "tried" to do a spacerlift with the ome lift. Just a OME lift alone will gain about 3" 's if you use the HD's. Sure would look good if you guys could pull this off! I know that with my OME lift, 3 ring-clevis and rusty's 1/2" spacer lift up front my lift cannot be far off from a frankie! I'm in need of a set of AL's Upper's BAD when off road! Josh

Author:	tommudd [ Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:17 pm ]
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jb4204562 wrote: to use OME NS131 HD struts up front, OME 132L Long Travel shocks, and the OME HD springs all around....... with a spacer lift?? I'm going to be adding an ARB Winch bumper, Rusty's sliders, a kilby gas skid, and a super skid..... pretty much all at the same time while the motor is being replaced.... So I figure i'd upgrade to OME suspension products while i'm at it because of the extra weight... At that point i'm sure i'd need Al's upper A arms as well.... The spacer lift i have is the billet one and i've had it in for a while with no problems at all... rdes a little bumpy but it doesn't bother me at all... Al's 6" lift is very very possible to do..... but it's not out yet... and i have to be able to accomidate(sp?) the weight of the bull bar and winch.. simple answer is no, not without a lot of problems, the OME Heavy Dutys will do you fine and will with a clevis lift give you plenty of lift, unless you want to deal with all the other problems associated with combining a spacer. Common sense comes into play here Tom

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Author:	jb4204562 [ Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:39 pm ]
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The spacer lift I have is actually something like a block that goes in the clevis lift, then the bottom of the strut assembly fits into that piece.... so I just thought that I could take the lower control arm off and then jack it back on once the strut/spring assembly were fitted into the piece in the clevis. basically giving me over 5" of lift.... with a set of Al's upper A-arms.. wouldn't this work?? I know the back would probably fit if the rear axle was dropped and also jacked back up.... Like i said.. Al's 6" lift is looking more and more financially possible.... but I have no patience to wait knowing i'm getting the ARB winch bumper and the sliders and skids......

Author:	renegadekj [ Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:38 pm ]
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Sure it MIGHT work....But for how long are your cv's going to last along with the ball joints etc. Oh and then you will probably want to put 33's on her for shoes and that D30a won't like that! Josh

Author:	tommudd [ Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:34 pm ]
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all I will say is it will look good sitting in the driveway, cause thats the only place it will be. If you dont know what the problems will be from doing it, then you should not even try it. Read through various posts and you will see the problems, as far as the lift you have already...well best thing for it is being a door stop Happy Thanksgiving

Author:	myjeepwalks [ Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:03 pm ]
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did no one see swampthings lift? he combined a rusty's spacer lift and coil lift if i remember correctly. i'm sure he had to fabricate some things. but thats a given.

Author:	Jeepjeepster [ Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:09 pm ]
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The franken lift uses the .75in spacer that rusty sells(Or one just like it). You would need the daystar upper plate that the franken lift uses. With that the .75 spacer that would work just fine. What happened to your engine?

Author:	jb4204562 [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:01 am ]
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180,000 miles of pure mayhem and abuse!! LOL..... finally blew the motor.... it's almost as if i were trying to ... she's my little tank though...... as for the lift.. the extra clearance that it's given me has been a dream..... right or wrong it definitely felt a lot better than stock.... and I've had it on for almost 2 years with no ball joint / shock / etc.. problems.... just been waiting for a "REAL" big lift to come out.....

Author:	DarbyWalters [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:03 am ]
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Seems like it is time for you to go SAS...save some $$$ and do it right to get 4" or so of usable lift. In the mean time fix the engine and keep the lift you have now.

Author:	tommudd [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:06 pm ]
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myjeepwalks wrote: did no one see swampthings lift? he combined a rusty's spacer lift and coil lift if i remember correctly. i'm sure he had to fabricate some things. but thats a given. duh....yes everyone saw it, but would we want to wheel it ..no, too many weak points. MANY years ago a group started to get together to talk about KJs and lifts, after using many springs/shocks etc they came to the conclusion that 2.5/3 inches was the max you could lift the KJ without getting into major problems. So ones like swampthing did do it but f you read he did not drive it that much. Going on to jeepinals lift look at what you have to do in order to go that high, not just use some CHEAP A** spacer kit with springs. If you want over 3 inches dont be stupid just go SFA, if you want a trailer queen then by all means go for it. listen to several years of experience on here, and quite saying well sos and so its all been discussed SEVERAL times before spend some time and go back and reread the posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tom

Author:	jb4204562 [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:56 am ]
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KK, You also have to remember that I live in NYC.... and there aren't too many places to go do some serious off roading anywhere close to where I am without doing it illegally (for which I have received many trespassing tickets) so I was thinking since my truck would probably never see MOAB that it would be a simple enough thing to do with some moderate wheeling...... but now I'm guessing thats probably not such a good idea... If the OME lift gives you about 3" of lift.... then maybe I'll settle with that until Al's 6" lift comes out... unless someone knows of a shop anywhere close to NY that would attempt a solid axle swap if all the parts were there......... so next Q? is the OME lift just the springs and shocks/struts?? or is there something more?? once again guys I do appreciate the info... remember she's got 180,000 miles on her ... so I want to try and do the most dependable and easy to fix job that is possible....

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Author:	Jeepjeepster [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:11 am ]
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You probably wont get a full 3" of lift with just OME. Just remember that the Franken lift gives around 3-3.5in of lift and its basically the OME lift with a spacer under the spring. It has a daystar upper plate that lets the coil over droop more so you will have enough room to compress the spring with the spacer to get the plate back on. This is why it causes upper balljoint contact and why they need that pad for the upper control arm. If the franken lift gives 3" of lift WITH a spacer, youre not going to get close to 3" of lift with just the OME lift. I had the Medium duty springs and got around 1.5" of lift. You should get alittle more if you go with the HD springs.

Author:	Fulltimer [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:53 pm ]
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Ok, so if I go with an OME lift, HD springs, without any steel bumpers: 1. How will the ride be? 2. About what would the lift be? Terry AFTER THOUGHT: just so you know. In time I will have bumpers.

Author:	snowsport [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:52 pm ]
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Tommudd rode his HD setup awhile with no bumper and said he liked it. It's going to be a stiff-ish ride for sure. How long before you get some steel up front? Anyhow, an OME HD is going to get you around 2", maybe 21/4" of lift.

Author:	tommudd [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:58 pm ]
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I have just as much lift with my OME Heavy Duty carrying a ARB bumper as those do with a Rustys kit, for example measured mine the other day against jerbachers same spot in my garage, his has a Rustys with 245-75X16 MTRs, mine OME HDs with 255-70 X16 a shorter tire and both were within a 1/16 of an inch difference. The ride will be stiffer without a bumper for sure. But you will not go wrong with the OMEs

Author:	elephantrider [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:43 pm ]
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yep, my original rustys lift was not any taller than when i switched to ome hd's, and thats with the arb

Author:	Jeepjeepster [ Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:04 pm ]
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What spot did you measure from tommudd? I measured mine with respect to Eddos liberty which had the franken lift. He had done a few select things to make his alittle lower than a normal franken lift and my lift was around 1" lower than his. Tire size did not matter the way we did it. I only got 1.5in of lift with the OME med duty springs and 3" with the Rustys lift. 6.5in under the engine skid with stock springs 8in under the skid with OME springs 9.5in under the skid with rustys springs. Measured all of those with stock tires. I guess the HD springs lift it a decent amount more than the med springs..