ok so maybe ill go with the detroit locker instead. i might get that before my lift, im not sure yet

now what is all involved in installing the detroit locker in the back on my 8.25 with the 3.73? will i have to get it all setup again by a shop with the backlash and all that? the actual locker is about 600, what will labor be to install it?

yup!.. i've made my mind up.. when i get lockers (dont know if i'm getting a winch or lockers for my next major mod).. but if it is lockers.. i'm going for the Detroit Locker in the back.. and DTT in the front. sounds like the best combination from what everyone here has said. however i dont think anyone has the combo yet.. so if someone wants to try it first go ahead .. mine will have it sooner or later reguardless.

You have ESP. It seems that a DTT in the front would be a waste of $$$. I understand the locker rather than the ESP-ABS-LSD for the rear, but not the front. Either lock it, or not.
just my $.02

I disagree
I have see the ESP work and it works good but the way it works putting the breaks on and such
many feel the way I do that with a TT in any diff of an ESP equipped rig would be very close to locker performance
when compared to a non ESP rig with a TT

i dont think anyone has.. but hopefully i will within a year or so. Those are both good points. I didnt think about the ESP actually helping the TT.. i was just worried about the ESP malfunctioning due to the lockers. I guess it knows when wheels are slipping.. and if they're locked then they wont slip. oh well.. time will tell

Lastly, although I am a big advocate of detroits front and rear, considering the issues some people have had with the aluminum housing for the D30 center section on the liberties, a true trac may be a better option for you guys with IFS than the detroit. I guess it would be less stress on your half shafts too...

It's not the IFS that's the problem, it's the darn Aluminum Diff housing on the Dana 30A.

First, go detroit locker front and rear!!! That's definitely the way to go if maximum traction is your goal!!

Second, I've wheeled with a guy with a true trac in the front and a detroit in the rear. He has a CJ7 with 37" boggers and a 350!! When you really get on it, the true trac will lock up to a degree and pull you, but not immediately like a regular detroit. The true trac won't let one wheel just totally sit uselessly while the other spins....it's just one will spin most, and the other wheel will spin just a little bit. I wish I had a video of this guy trying to get up a rocky gully. It was a perfect example of how the true trac works. His front tires were what was holding him up, he just about had it, but one of the front tires was spinning more than the other was. Once he really got on it, it pulled him up and over and he got through.

I have no comment on how the true trac may work with your ESP systems, because I don't know all that much about them. However, my first instinct is that if you had a TT, you'd probably want to shut off the ESP stuff for wheeling. It may help it work better....but who knows??

Lastly, although I am a big advocate of detroits front and rear, considering the issues some people have had with the aluminum housing for the D30 center section on the liberties, a true trac may be a better option for you guys with IFS than the detroit. I guess it would be less stress on your half shafts too...