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Author:  Back-n-Black [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:33 am ]
Post subject:  B-n-B 03 Renegade
Just wanted to start a little thread for my liberty and what and how it changes as i own it.

Bought in December 2008 with 63k miles bone stock, and i mean right down to the tires and i am not so sure the oil filter isn't the factory one as when i tried to change my oil the first time it was stuck on like it had been there for 63k. :lol: It is a 2003 Jeep Liberty Renegade.

On the build sheet for my jeep it looks as though the only option i didn't get for the 03 Renegade was the heated seats and a Transmition skid plate (although i am not sure if any of them shipped with trany skid).

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Prem Leather Trimmed Bucket Seats
Lt Taupe/Dk Slate Gray
Skid Plate Group
Convenience Group I
Trailer Tow Group
Security Group
Power Convenience Group
Monotone Paint
Smoker's Group
3.7L Eng(EKG)/4Spd A/T 45RFE(DG4)
160 Amp Alternator
600 Amp Maintenance Free Battery
Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
Rear 65/35 Folding Split Seat
Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready
Next Gen Multistage Front Air Bags**
Floor Carpet
Cargo Compartment Carpet
Cargo Tie Down Loops
Plastic Swing Gate Trim Panel
Front & Rear Floor Mats
Cargo Trim Panel w/Storage Net
Spare Tire Cover
Cargo Compartment Cover
Passenger Assist Handles
Driver Assist Handle
Luxury Door Trim Panel
Base Door Trim Panel
Mini Overhead Console
Full Length Floor Console
Removable Ash Tray
All 4-Speed Automatic Transmissions
Multi-Speed Auto 45RFE Transmission
Lock-Up Torque Converter
Selec-Trac Full Time 4WD System
Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
3.73 Axle Ratio
Corporate 8.25 Rear Axle
Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle
3.7L V6 Engine
Tinted Windshield Glass
Front Door Tinted Glass
Deep Tint Sunscreen Glass
Flipper Swing Gate Glass
Rear Window Defroster
Sun Visors w/Illum Vanity Mirrors
Rear View Auto Dim Mirror
Pwr Htd F/Away,Drvr Auto Dim Mirrors
All Vehicles W/Power Mirrors
Power Sunroof
Remote Keyless Entry
Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
Air Conditioning
Route 53 - UP, Kent, WA
Instrument Cluster w/Tach
120 MPH Primary Speedometer
Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers
Rear Window Wiper/Washer
Cigar Lighter
Dual Note Electric Horns
12V Auxiliary Power Outlet
Auxiliary 12-Volt Rear Power Outlet
Speed Sensitive Power Locks
Power Front Driver/Passenger Seats
Pwr Windows, Front 1-Touch Down
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
Illuminated Entry
Vehicle Information Center
Courtesy Lamps
Map/Dome Reading Lamps
Cargo Compartment Lamp
Traveler/Mini Trip Computer
Headlamp Off Time Delay
Halogen Headlamps
Fog Lamps
Roof Mounted Light Bar
CHMSL Lamp
Security Alarm
Front License Plate Bracket
Body Color Grille
Body Color Fascias
Tubular Side Steps
Jeep Badge
4X4 Badge
Roof Rack
Chrome Roof Rail Crossbars
3.7L Badge
Renegade Badge
Liberty Badge
50 State Emissions
Federal Tier 2, Bin 9A Emissions
18.5 Gallon Fuel Tank
Power Steering Cooler
Speed Control
Heavy Duty Engine Cooling
Light Khaki Metallic Clear Coat
Light Khaki Metallic Clear Coat
All Radio Equipped Vehicles
AM/FM Cass/CD Radio w/Changer Ctrl
6 Premium Speakers
Fixed Long Mast Antenna
Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Ctrls
Power Rack and Pinion Steering
Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel
Normal Duty Suspension
Tilt Steering Column
Full Size Spare Tire
Outside Tire Carrier
P235/70R16 OWL All Terrain Tires
Goodyear Brand Tires
16X7.0 Aluminum Wheels
Matching Spare Wheel
All Aluminum Wheels
Tow Hooks
Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield
Transfer Case Skid Plate Shield
Front Suspension Skid Plate
Class III Receiver Hitch
7 Pin Wiring Harness
7 to 4 Pin Wiring Adaptor
Universal Garage Door Opener
Grocery Bag Hooks
Tethered Fuel Filler Cap
Protective Coating and Remover
5 Additional Gallons of Gas
Spring - Left Front
Spring - Left Rear
Spring - Right Front
Spring - Right Rear


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With 63k and not knowing what kind of maintenance was done i jumped right in to replace all the fluids and check everything out. The diff oil smelled horrible and was burnt really bad.
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I replaced the diff and transfer case lube with Royal Purple http://www.royalpurple.com/gear-oil.html. The motor oil was changed out for Mobile One 10-30. The trany just got regular replacement fluid.


After driving it around for a while and taking it out wheeling a few times the changes i wanted to make started to get clearer. First every problem i had off road was ground clearance. The side steps or running boards, depending on what you call them, hung up on everything and ended up getting pushed into the rear tires.

Off they came..now setting in a scrap pile.
Also i didn't like the top heavy look the plastic rail covers gave the roof. It was just to much up here and made it look overly tall. They went next to the running boards. :twisted:

I pulled the stock paper air filter and threw in a KnN replacement filter to let her breath a little better.
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I might be juvenile or just a little old school but i like to hear my rigs. The motor, the exhaust even the tires on the road are all welcome sounds to my ears. So my second purchase was a Flowmaster 44 SOR.
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Author:  SoDakJeep [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:21 am ]
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did you change your head and fog lights or are they stock?
Author:  Back-n-Black [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:25 am ]
Post subject: 
SoDakJeep wrote:
did you change your head and fog lights or are they stock?


Still stock. The headlights and fog lights are bright enough for me, but i wouldn't mind the roof lights being a little brighter.....you know like 747 landing lights would be fine with me. :twisted:
Author:  riptricket [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:47 pm ]
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they sure don't look stock to me...
Author:  TAHOE [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: B-n-B 03 Renegade
Back-n-Black wrote:
The diff oil smelled horrible and was burnt really bad.

That stuff smells bad coming out of the bottle when new, it is horrible after it gets burnt. Only 1 smell I've had worse than that, but I won't divulge.
I have a question for anyone....what is the flywheel looking piece on the back of the ring gears? Never seen that before.
Author:  Jeepjeepster [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:33 pm ]
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Its called a tone ring. There is a sensor on top of the diff that tells the speed-o how fast your going and keeps those miles rolling on the odo.
Author:  Back-n-Black [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:09 pm ]
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riptricket wrote:
they sure don't look stock to me...


Well to be truthful i have never taken them apart to check the part numbers but i assume they are stock as this thing had little to nothing done to it, including maintenance it seems, when i bought it. But they could be replacements. I know they work well and after adjusting them out of the tree's and back to the road they are amazing.
Author:  JeepinJarhead03 [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:08 pm ]
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i took a bath in diff grease when changing a cover gasket on a dump truck, forgot to drain it before pulling the bolts on the cover and wacking it with a hammer :(

even when fresh, the stuff has that.. nostril sting to it, i just about lost my lunch laying on my side on a creeper
Author:  Back-n-Black [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:36 pm ]
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JeepinJarhead03 wrote:
i took a bath in diff grease when changing a cover gasket on a dump truck, forgot to drain it before pulling the bolts on the cover and wacking it with a hammer :(

even when fresh, the stuff has that.. nostril sting to it, i just about lost my lunch laying on my side on a creeper


I know that feeling man!! I think i have either worn every car fluid or been burnt by them. :lol: :evil:

Demolition Derbys and dirt track racing you get a lot of chances to have hot coolant or atf or oil or gear lube fly in your face. :shock:

Since i started using Royal Purple gear lube i have yet to have that smell or really any burnt smell at all come from my rigs. My dad's ford went 6 years between changes and i thought it would be very nasty and smelly but it just doesn't have the same stuff in it as dyno oil.
Author:  JeepinJarhead03 [ Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:47 pm ]
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i think i'd miss that nostril sting, but i guess as long as it works and doesnt smell all sweeeet and flowery like ATF :lol:

worst i had to deal with in the diesel industry was clutch jobs, every box truck / tractor would dump half a gallon or more of nasty black clutch dust all over you every time you pulled the clutch, and you'd get it everywhere because you had to monkey everything related to it just to get it out

i do not miss bruised heels from kicking transmissions in either
Author:  Back-n-Black [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  mmmmm goodies
Rubber Mopar floor mats, Mopar tranny skid, d30 Lock-Right Locker, rear isolators and conduit nuts.

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Author:  0311_DoC [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:16 am ]
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ok i wanna see pics when u put all that stuff on :twisted:
Author:  Back-n-Black [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:19 am ]
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0311_DoC wrote:
ok i wanna see pics when u put all that stuff on :twisted:


:twisted: I will i will. Lift gets here tomorrow. :twisted: :shock: :twisted: Then the shocks should be here by Monday or Tuesday and the Jeep goes into the shop next weekend or the weekend after.
Author:  JeepinJarhead03 [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:23 am ]
Post subject: 
s.o.b! didn't you learn to share! lol, looks like xmas in February
Author:  0311_DoC [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:26 am ]
Post subject: 
Back-n-Black wrote:
0311_DoC wrote:
ok i wanna see pics when u put all that stuff on :twisted:


:twisted: I will i will. Lift gets here tomorrow. :twisted: :shock: :twisted: Then the shocks should be here by Monday or Tuesday and the Jeep goes into the shop next weekend or the weekend after.


Im especially interested in the isolator pads and the clevis since that is what im needing to do soon so if you can take lotsa pics and/or close ups of that procedure that would be awesome...
Author:  Back-n-Black [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:46 am ]
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JeepinJarhead03 wrote:
s.o.b! didn't you learn to share! lol, looks like xmas in February


lol I never did learn to share well!! :lol:

I told my self to go nuts till i eclipse the $500 mark and then i am done so i took a lot of time to research all the options and find the cheap stuff. Having my girl get me my lift for valentines day doesn't hurt either. :shock: 8)
Author:  jsc7002 [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:04 am ]
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it'll be interesting, Im real curious to see how the lock rite works.
Author:  Back-n-Black [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:38 am ]
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Woohoo the lift and shocks showed up today!! Everything looks good to install now. :D

One side note after looking at the daystar lift i am amazed at the number of post i have seen about the preloading of the front springs. From posts about horrible ride to coil stacking it just amazes me because the difference is less than 1/2". If a 1/2 inch of preload makes any difference at all to ride quality i will be amazed.

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Author:  jsc7002 [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:42 pm ]
Post subject: 
any idea of when the locker is going in?
Author:  0311_DoC [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:10 am ]
Post subject: 
jsc7002 wrote:
any idea of when the locker is going in?


if you look above his avatar you will see he is temporarily banned..... he wont be replying for a while...
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