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| Author: | waddy whiteguts [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:06 pm ] |
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There's an old thread around here I made about my $20 "lift". I made 1/2" aluminum spacers for the front lower coilover mount and added a pair of rear isolators on top of the rear springs. This and my '02 (longer) springs made it possible to run about a 31" tire with just a tad of rubbing when backing and turning. My ride height is around 2" higher than the '03 and up Libertys. The springs and shocks are still original and have held up well with this setup but nothing lasts forever. When it comes time to replace them I'd like to know my options to maintain my ride or maybe stiffen it up some in the big whoops. The stock springs don't seem very progressive to me or maybe mine are softening. I don't think the OEM springs for '02s are available any longer. I don't want to lose the inch by going with an '03/up spring but I don't want to lift another couple inches and open a new can of worms. Is there an aftermarket spring and shock that would give me my current ride height or maybe one more inch of lift and a firmer ride? |
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| Author: | tjkj2002 [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:10 pm ] |
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Go with the OME meduim F/R coils and you'll gain about 1"-1.5" of lift and will be able to run 245/75R16's on the stock rims with issues.Might as well get new F/R shocks also,Rancho or OME makes good ones(OME just more $$$).Your looking at $700 for everything,not real cheap but you will be amazed at the ride,better then stock ever was.And at least you know it will last a long time and have lifetime warranty on the parts as long as no spacers are added. |
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| Author: | 1996xj [ Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:11 am ] |
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Tjkj2002, he's right! OME spring are the way to go!! I do know that you can still get the 2002 factory spring, I did for a friend, all I did was give the dealer the vin number off of an 2002 liberty and it was the taller spring!!! 
NOTE: The price was about the same as OME around $70.00 each !!!!! |
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| Author: | ObiHann [ Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:15 am ] |
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1996xj wrote: Tjkj2002 is right, OME spring is the way to go!! I do know that you can still get the 2002 factory spring, I did for a friend, all I did was give the dealer the vin number off of an 2002 liberty and it was the taller spring!!!
Of course he is right  I'm struggling between a few options now, either new 235/70/16 KM2s, then a lift, or a lift then either 245/75/16 KM2s or 235/85/16 KM2s.... When I do lift I am going OME HD Coils, Skyjacker rear shocks, then likely Rancho front shocks...
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| Author: | 1996xj [ Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:24 am ] |
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If, your like me you will kick your self in the booty later, and want the 245/75/16 . I have learned for myself, just go bigger!! Because otherwise I wil just waste money and get the larger tires down the road. EXAMPLE: bought in two years 245/70/16 AT, 265/70/16 AT, NOW 265/75/16 MUD and also sitting at 3+ inches of lift, IT'S NEVER ENDING !!!!!!!!!! 
NOTE: installing 4.10's this summer!!! |
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| Author: | ObiHann [ Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:32 am ] |
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1996xj wrote: If, your like me you will kick your self in the @$#% later, and want the 245/75/16 . I have learned for myself, just go bigger!! Because otherwise I wil just waste money and get the larger tires down the road. EXAMPLE: bought in two years 245/70/16 AT, 265/70/16 AT, NOW 265/75/16 MUD and also sitting at 3+ inches of lift, IT'S NEVER ENDING !!!!!!!!!!
NOTE: installing 4.10's this summer!!! I'de rather go 235/85/16 but we will see. I expect to hvae trouble cramming that into a lift that is only OME HD coils and no spacers or nothing... |
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| Author: | waddy whiteguts [ Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:56 pm ] |
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tjkj2002 wrote: Go with the OME meduim F/R coils and you'll gain about 1"-1.5" of lift and will be able to run 245/75R16's on the stock rims with issues.Might as well get new F/R shocks also,Rancho or OME makes good ones(OME just more $$$).Your looking at $700 for everything,not real cheap but you will be amazed at the ride,better then stock ever was.And at least you know it will last a long time and have lifetime warranty on the parts as long as no spacers are added.
Thanks much, that's what I needed. I am currently running 245/60-16 Firestone Destination ATs on TJ Rubicon wheels. The fender wells are cleaned up, pinch weld folded. I don't rub with the firestones but I did get some rubbing when I had the Goodyear MT/R 245/65-16s on it. I am happy with the tires and size on it now. The MT/Rs were too much tire without changing gearing. I don't want to get so much lift that I run into the UCA, CV issues etc. I'm happy enough with my current setup that I'd go with factory springs and shocks as replacements but I've noticed with all the frost heaving this Winter that the suspension is at it's limits trying to keep the heavy KJ from bottoming out over the big ruts and bumps. This time of year the roads change from one day to the next so it's hard to avoid bashing through some of these spots. Would heavy duty springs be too stiff for the gasser KJ? I don't really even have a lift on my KJ now but the springs, spacers and 245/60s make it sit quite a bit higher than 03/up KJs, quite noticeable when parked side by side. Thanks again, this will go into the Jeep budget soon. |
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| Author: | SweepnChoke [ Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:18 pm ] |
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Would heavy duty springs be too stiff for the gasser KJ? I don't think it would provide to stiff of a ride, however it is going to increase your front lift 2.5" with out any other changes. Where as like tjkj2002 said, the mediums will give you 1-1.5". |
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| Author: | ObiHann [ Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:34 pm ] |
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SweepnChoke wrote: Would heavy duty springs be too stiff for the gasser KJ?
I don't think it would provide to stiff of a ride, however it is going to increase your front lift 2.5" with out any other changes. Where as like tjkj2002 said, the mediums will give you 1-1.5". The HD is what is more commonly used. According to OME HD is a 1-1.5" lift, even the franky uses HD. |
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| Author: | tjkj2002 [ Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:38 pm ] |
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ObiHann wrote: SweepnChoke wrote: Would heavy duty springs be too stiff for the gasser KJ? I don't think it would provide to stiff of a ride, however it is going to increase your front lift 2.5" with out any other changes. Where as like tjkj2002 said, the mediums will give you 1-1.5". The HD is what is more commonly used. According to OME HD is a 1-1.5" lift, even the franky uses HD. |
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| Author: | waddy whiteguts [ Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:35 pm ] |
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Good info, exactly what I need to know. What is the expected lifespan of OME Med. springs in road miles? Do they sag much? |
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| Author: | tjkj2002 [ Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:34 pm ] |
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waddy whiteguts wrote: Good info, exactly what I need to know. What is the expected lifespan of OME Med. springs in road miles? Do they sag much? Just using the OME coils,with no spacers,are warrantied for life by OME.The Frankinlift voids OME's warranty and AllJ's is responsible for any warranty of the coils then.
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| Author: | ObiHann [ Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:59 pm ] |
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tjkj2002 wrote: waddy whiteguts wrote: Good info, exactly what I need to know. What is the expected lifespan of OME Med. springs in road miles? Do they sag much? Just using the OME coils,with no spacers,are warrantied for life by OME.The Frankinlift voids OME's warranty and AllJ's is responsible for any warranty of the coils then.BDS warranties there stuff no matter what you do with it lol |
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