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 Post subject: Actual Lift Amount - Lets Compare Fender Heights
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:55 pm 
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Lets all measure our true lifted (or un-lifted) heights. I have a couple of pics below showing how you need to measure so that we are comparing apples to apples. List your year, type of lift, miles on current suspension setup, and front and rear fender heights. List right and left also if they happen to differ more than 1/4". I'd like to see the measurements for as many stock un-lifted KJs too with the least amount of miles so we can help people in the future to tell if/how much their stock springs are sagging. I would also like to see the height from those of you that are SFA'ed. (So the rest of us can be jealous).

2007 Sport
Daystar 2.5" Lift plus 3/8" Clevis
35k miles on Jeep, 15k miles on the lift
Stock Springs
Stock Bumper
Front Fender Height: 22.25
Rear Fender Height: 21.25

My fenders measured this the day after I installed the lift and have not dropped any... YET. 8)

And just for reference, someone measured a stock 2007 KJ with 5000 miles on it and fender height was just over 19" on all 4 corners.

Also, no need to list tire and wheel size. It is irrelevant for this measurement. This just measures the suspension height and it will be the same whether you have stock wheels and tires, or if you stuff 35's under there.

Measure the distance from the center of the wheel hub to the bottom of the fender flare.
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Take the measurement at the bottom of the rounded outer edge of the fender flare. The green line in the pic shows where to take the measurement. The fenders bevel down as they go in closer to the inner fender well. So, if we all just measure to the spot I marked in green in the pic, we will have an even comparison. In this picture, it measures 22.25"
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:50 pm 
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I got 18 1/2" but I think I would drop it to 17 1/2 because the fender bevels down about an inch. I am stock height with OEM 17" wheels and 235/65/17 Hercules Terra Tracs on. (measured drivers side front)

Rear is the same

Mileage is 35,522...

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Albert wrote:
I got 18 1/2" but I think I would drop it to 17 1/2 because the fender bevels down about an inch. I am stock height with OEM 17" wheels and 235/65/17 Hercules Terra Tracs on. (measured drivers side front) Rear is the same


Regarding the fenders, yes they all bevel down as they go in closer to the inner fender well. If we all just measure to the spot I marked in green in the pic, we will have an even comparison.

Also, don't forget to list your mileage so we can see the sagging trend versus mileage.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 4:55 pm 
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OME Medium Duty Springs F&R (Approx. 9500 miles on Suspension)
Ranchos Shocks F&R
Rear: One extra Upper Iso Pad
No Gear
3.7L Gasser
Stock Front & Rear Bumper
235/70R16 Firestone ATs and 16x7 Cragars

From Center hub to Bottom of Flare

Rear: 22.5"
Front: 21.5"

Once I add my ARB this coming week I'm sure the front end will drop even more. Going to need to add a clevis lift and maybe a 1/4" spacer. Will edit later...

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 5:17 pm 
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long_tall_texan wrote:
Albert wrote:
I got 18 1/2" but I think I would drop it to 17 1/2 because the fender bevels down about an inch. I am stock height with OEM 17" wheels and 235/65/17 Hercules Terra Tracs on. (measured drivers side front) Rear is the same


Regarding the fenders, yes they all bevel down as they go in closer to the inner fender well. If we all just measure to the spot I marked in green in the pic, we will have an even comparison.

Also, don't forget to list your mileage so we can see the sagging trend versus mileage.


Ok, I added mileage to my post. Measurement would be 18 1/2 then. My reading skills are bad today.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 5:29 pm 
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21.5" Both sides FRONT
20.5" Both sides REAR

2005 Gasser with:

Steel front bumper
Winch
Clevis Lift (AKA Ace Hardware Lift!)
Frankinlift Premium II

Guessing about 20,000 miles on the lift.
69,000 total miles.

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jeepkj02 wrote:
OME Medium Duty Springs F&R (Approx. 9500 miles on Suspension)
Ranchos Shocks F&R
Rear: One extra Upper Iso Pad
No Gear
3.7L Gasser
Stock Front & Rear Bumper
235/70R16 Firestone ATs and 16x7 Cragars

From Center hub to Bottom of Flare

Rear: 22.5"
Front: 21.5"

Once I add my ARB this coming week I'm sure the front end will drop even more. Going to need to add a clevis lift and maybe a 1/4" spacer. Will edit later...


if I were you Id look inot getting HD coils or adding one of these:
http://jeepinbyal.com/prod-JBA_Spring_Ring-589.aspx

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:00 pm 
Left front, 20.5
Left rear, 21.5
Right rear, 22.5
Right front, 21.5

Exactly an inch difference left to right :shock:


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20.5" all 4 corners

8K on the front OME790's & 131 struts
58k on the rear OME948 & Ranchos'
71K on the Jeep

ARB front, RL rear

no extra clevis or spacers. (probably on the next set of tires)

(+clevis 21 1/4 on front)

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:25 pm 
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20 3/4 fronts, 21 3/4 rears. 2 1/2" OME HD springs in front, 2 1/2" OME MD springs in rear, OME Shocks all 4 corners, 1/2" Daystar spacers in rear.

Got about 5,000 miles or so on lift, and 70K on heep itself. 04 standard with 245/75/16 Silent Armour tires.

Could have used a 4" lift :lol: :lol: :lol:

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OME HD Front and back No Clevis or extra ISO's.

Front: 20 1/2"
Rear: 21 1/4"

A little higher on the passenger side.

I'm considering going a little higher soon...

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:57 pm 
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2005 Sport on Stock Suspension, just rolled over 49,000 miles.
Front D:18.5"
Front P:18.5"
Back D:18.875"
Back P:18.875"

Look's like my front is sagging from the rear, my guess is stock must be 19" ?? Looks like I will need a new suspension anyway :)

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jeep has 28000 miles.. back frankenlift+iso. has 23000 miles then front franky has 23000 miles but springs (OME CRD HD 790's) only have prob. 7000 miles. have ARB front bumper and winch with steel cable.

left front- 22 3/4
right front - 22 3/4

left rear- 22
right rear 22

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Front Suspension- Rancho RSX 17505 with OME HD 927 Coils, ARB Bumper no winch, no clevis rings

Rear Suspension - SkyJacker Hydro H7088 Shocks, Skyjacker JBA-LIB25R Coils, 2 extra rear ISO's each side, about 200lbs of gear in the back

Front both sides 21"
Rear both sides 21.5"

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2006 KJ wrote:
left front- 22 3/4
right front - 22 3/4

left rear- 22
right rear 22


Are the frankie springs taller than the OME? How did you get 2" more lift than I did?

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2006 KJ wrote:
left front- 22 3/4
right front - 22 3/4

left rear- 22
right rear 22


Are the frankie springs taller than the OME? How did you get 2" more lift than I did?


well the front i have the the real stiff OME 790 springs to hold up my bumper.. and i kept the spacer in the bottom that came with the frankenlift and the top plate that came with the frankenlift. In the rear it is just OME HD springs and i added an extra upper isolator (little bit of extra lift)

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I'll re-post here as well for all the folks who do not check KJ Country.

OK, 2004 Sport 3.7 liter. 225-70-16 inch tires (I know, pretty sad!)
180300.0 Km/112033.23 miles
Drivers side front 18 inches
Drivers side rear 18 7/8 inches
Passengers front 18 inches
Passengers rear 18 1/8 inches

This is the stock suspension/what it left the Chrysler factory with.

It will be interesting to see the "After" with the Frankenlift and 245-75-16 inch tires


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Now has 125,120 miles on it. LIFTED FOR 85,720 MILES!!!

but added to some over the miles :wink: :wink: including RRO top spacer plate, and a few more conduit nuts :roll:

Right front 22 3/4
Left Front 22 1/2
Right Rear 21 7/8
Left rear 21 3/4

was higher but the CVs complained so much that I lowered it back down :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Rear: Frankenlift I with 2.5" Daystar pucks with no Iso pads

Front: 23.5"
Rear: 24"

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well the front i have the the real stiff OME 790 springs to hold up my bumper.. and i kept the spacer in the bottom that came with the frankenlift and the top plate that came with the frankenlift. In the rear it is just OME HD springs and i added an extra upper isolator (little bit of extra lift)


Weird. I was robbed :lol: :lol: :lol:

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