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Author:  ryan.blair2009 [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:16 am ]
Post subject:  Help with Locker

OK don't shoot me because i've REALLY searched for hours and hours and never really found conclusive information that would give me what I need. I want to put some type of locker in the from of my 05 Liberty CRD, now it will almost never be climbing hills or mud bogging ( though i would love to, being realistic ), but snow and ice are a big concern. I need great road manners, as the wife drives it 70 miles a day roughly to work. My questions... Would a powertrax no slip or lock right work? If so what negative affects would be found if on FRONT only. Any difference while in 2 or 4WD? Any suggestions would be great. Thanks, Ryan

Author:  ridenby [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with Locker

Trac-lok limited slip will work.

Author:  2006 KJ [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with Locker

if money is not an issue for sure go with an ARB air locker. when you want it locked you flip a switch.. when your on road you cant tell its there when it's unlocked. but its pricey since you need a air compressor.. lines.. switches.. more lenghly install since it replaces the carrier and air lines need ran. It money is an object a lot of people use Detroit True Trac's in the front.

Author:  ryan.blair2009 [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with Locker

Well money is a pretty big factor 4 wheel parts will install a truetrak but for the tune of 1200 bucks and having my jeep in the shop (one vehicle family) doesn't really seem good, plus the cost. I have the tools and shop to do something like a powertax or the like and at around 400 is a lot easier to convince the wife department. Also would only NEED it 2-3 times a year. Also I hear on the back could cause traction problems if throttled around a turn, wondering how that would play out on the front.

Author:  KJ Willy [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:03 pm ]
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Think hard about doing a Detriot if you are in snow and ice area. I have not been in that type of area with mine but have been told many times to be careful if I do go.

Author:  tjkj2002 [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with Locker

You only get really 2 choices for the front,neither are cheap.The ARB and the DTT(LSD).Scratch putting a aussie or any other luchbox locker up front as you will have to pull the diff to install anyways as the center pin has a roll pin holding it in and not a bolt.Forget about a auto locker like the regular Detroit locker if you ever plan on using the fulltime option in your t-case,same goes for the lunchbox lockers,as it will make steering nearly impossible.


I highly recommend the DTT,I had one up front and it kicked a s s in the winter time and offroading(ARB in the rear).

Author:  JeepinJarhead03 [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:32 pm ]
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It indeed.. Kicks Stupid

lol..

Author:  tjkj2002 [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:35 pm ]
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JeepinJarhead03 wrote:
It indeed.. Kicks Stupid

lol..

Yeah I like how they change the word even when spelled like this a $ $(had to add spaces to keep it that way).

Author:  kskj [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:07 pm ]
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My front DTT worked great in the snow last year. Made a big difference.

Author:  ryan.blair2009 [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with Locker

Thanks for the advice, even though its not what I wanted to hear. I would rather hear now and save time and hassle, then learn the hard way. Sad day indeed, oh well. Thanks for steering me clear from possible big mistake.

Author:  audiboy86 [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:41 am ]
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Can anyone give me some more information on the DTT(LSD) like a website where i can actually purchase one.

Author:  tjkj2002 [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:15 am ]
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audiboy86 wrote:
Can anyone give me some more information on the DTT(LSD) like a website where i can actually purchase one.

Here is some info...................

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http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/ProductsServices/PerformanceProducts/Products/Differentials/DetroitTruetrac/index.htm

Any place that sells gears and such and many offroad shops can get them.

Author:  audiboy86 [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with Locker

What is the spline count and ratio in the front end of our KJs i know my rear is 3.73 with 29 spline count. Also does anyone have any experience with the Eaton E-locker and are they worth it or not?

Author:  ryan.blair2009 [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with Locker

What modifications if any were needed to put in the DTT and what gear ration for up front on CRD?

Author:  Vranes17 [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with Locker

I know an engineer at Eaton, what type of locker fits the KJ from Eaton, is it worth it? is it the DTT?

Author:  ryan.blair2009 [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with Locker

Vranes17 wrote:
I know an engineer at Eaton, what type of locker fits the KJ from Eaton, is it worth it? is it the DTT?

lol then ask him.

Author:  JeepinJarhead03 [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with Locker

Guy might not know :P Eaton makes a ton of stuff for lawnmowers too ;)
but he might still get a company wide discount

Author:  Vranes17 [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with Locker

he just switched departments so. and yeah theres a doo doo ton of stuff they make, asked him and he didnt know, which was what i expected

Author:  CATCRD [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with Locker

Vranes17 wrote:
I know an engineer at Eaton, what type of locker fits the KJ from Eaton, is it worth it? is it the DTT?


The DTT is not a "locker". It is a limited slip, which is less aggressive and more streetable than a locker. I have one in the rear and it is awesome. You can get them for the front and the rear. I didn't get the Eaton E-locker because when it's not locked it's completely open. I don't want to fuss with switches on rainy or snowy streets - I just want it to work.

Author:  Vranes17 [ Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with Locker

CATCRD wrote:
Vranes17 wrote:
I know an engineer at Eaton, what type of locker fits the KJ from Eaton, is it worth it? is it the DTT?


The DTT is not a "locker". It is a limited slip, which is less aggressive and more streetable than a locker. I have one in the rear and it is awesome. You can get them for the front and the rear. I didn't get the Eaton E-locker because when it's not locked it's completely open. I don't want to fuss with switches on rainy or snowy streets - I just want it to work.


so the dtt is say 2nd reccomended to an arb?

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