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Author:  bunkermonkeycw [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
Ok. Im sitting at ~20.75 all around with shocks and springs only. Research states that 23.0 is the absolute max.

I'm looking at long tall texans 1 - 1.5 inch spring spacer for the back. I think thats a good move.

For the front I'm thinking 1 or 2 strut top plates and a few conduit nuts for another 1 to 1.5? Is this possible? What can I expect form a conduit clevis lift? I understand there is a bit of do then measure but Im sure some careful planning can save me some work. Other ideas are always welcome.

Sup?
Author:  JeepinJarhead03 [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
whatever you put into the clevis or top spacer in the front, nets 2x the thickness of the spacer in terms of lift

ie: 3 conduit nuts = 3/8" thickness = 6/8ths or 3/4" of lift

1/4" top plate = 1/2" and 3/8 top plate = 3/4"


Go with the 3/8" top plate and 1 or 2 conduits, or 1/4" top plate and 3 conduits. If you use the 3/8" top plate you'll have a bit more control later over adding small increments of lift for leveling purposes
Author:  bunkermonkeycw [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
Nice. Good info, I enjoy your easy to understand math :)

Two follow up questions...

1.) How far should I try to go?

Im thinking 1.5 more would be easy. 1 top plate(3/8), 3 conduit nuts.

2.) Who has these 3/8 inch strut spacers? I know JBA has the 1/4 inchers....
Author:  JeepinJarhead03 [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
boiler (chip) has them in 3/8th

aim for level with the rear which is going to be 22.25-22.5 ish?
Author:  bunkermonkeycw [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
Cool, so logic says I do the rear first measure it then plan the front. Thanks!

Bump stops and brake line relocation is necessary, yes?
Author:  JeepinJarhead03 [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
for an 06? You need to check, but I'm thinking yes

just search brake line should net you some results, I didn't have to fiddle with brake lines on mine due to the year of it, so I didn't retain that information in my brain housing unit sorry :(
Author:  tommudd [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
flat stock works well, drop the brake line bracket down, take a piece of flat stock 3 inches long, 2 holes , check size I for get what size I use, and bolt it in
Author:  bunkermonkeycw [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
I knew you'd chime in with my answer eventually Tom... a continued thanks goes out.

I felt up there and the tubes connected to it are metal, will they move with it or do they need to be persuaded in a new direction?

Final Bump stop question, ARB says no bumpstops with the kit that gave me the first 2, if I lift it 1.5 would it be a safe assumption that I want 1.5 inches of bump stopage?
Author:  tommudd [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
ARB has always stated that if using their springs and shocks you do not need bumpstops as they are built in to the shock itself. I have also been told by a ARBUSA employee that if you add anything to the front such as clevis, top plate etc then all of that goes out the window since you are using their product incorrectly. So.....I see front bumpstops as a cheap insurance policy.
Yes the rear brake line is connected with a 10 mm bolt I think it is, just have to remove it and make a bracket, real simple to do
Author:  daspes [ Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
bunkermonkeycw wrote:
Ok. Im sitting at ~20.75 all around with shocks and springs only. Research states that 23.0 is the absolute max.


Wow, I've been above the "absolute max" for nearly two years now.
Author:  tommudd [ Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
I have never had mine lifted more than about 21 inches






:ROTFL: :ROTFL: :ROTFL: :ROTFL:
Author:  bunkermonkeycw [ Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
daspes wrote:
bunkermonkeycw wrote:
Ok. Im sitting at ~20.75 all around with shocks and springs only. Research states that 23.0 is the absolute max.


Wow, I've been above the "absolute max" for nearly two years now.


And what are you at? Has my research failed me?
Author:  audiboy86 [ Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
He is at 23' i am at 22.75' but i am in a CRD and i just tore my first CV booton the drivers side everyone told me the shorter passenger side shaft would be the first to go. :banghead: :banghead:
Author:  daspes [ Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
bunkermonkeycw wrote:
daspes wrote:
bunkermonkeycw wrote:
Ok. Im sitting at ~20.75 all around with shocks and springs only. Research states that 23.0 is the absolute max.


Wow, I've been above the "absolute max" for nearly two years now.


And what are you at? Has my research failed me?


I'm at 23.5 front and 24 in the rear.
Author:  bunkermonkeycw [ Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
Hmmmmmmm. I will side with my original plans of 20.75 + another 1.5 giving me a hopeful total of 22.25.

Im thinking Ill save all out height for when its paid off :roll:

or when I get another whip to :-)r in...
Author:  lakee911 [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
audiboy86 wrote:
He is at 23' i am at 22.75' but i am in a CRD and i just tore my first CV booton the drivers side everyone told me the shorter passenger side shaft would be the first to go. :banghead: :banghead:



Dang that is tall. What do you do with the extension ladder after getting in? :)
Author:  audiboy86 [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
My 5 2' gf has no troubles getting in and out she just grabs the handle and pulls herself up in there while stepping on the slider. But most people who look at it say it ain't that tall till they go to get in and then they are really surprised. :twisted:
Author:  daspes [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
audiboy86 wrote:
My 5 2' gf has no troubles getting in and out she just grabs the handle and pulls herself up in there while stepping on the slider. But most people who look at it say it ain't that tall till they go to get in and then they are really surprised. :twisted:


I think he was referring to your kj's height of 23' (feet) not 23" (inches)... :lol:
Author:  audiboy86 [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The never ending question, answer it for the new guy!
oh dang just caught that :oops:
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