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 Post subject: OEM roof light..am I missing anything else?
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 5:24 am 
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I know the switch/relay is missing.What confuses me is that some of the OEM switches have wires...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/02-07-Jeep-Liberty-Roof-Off-Road-fog-light-switch-OEM-/264613703871?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=wVwjVNME8Z4Gk7REzk%252FqPfKsAUY%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

And some do not..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-2007-Jeep-Liberty-Roof-Off-Road-fog-light-switch-OEM/174273919804?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144



It looks like all i am missing is the switch/relay and those wires that plug in to the back of the switch..but how does all that connect to what I have in the pic below?

The guy I bought it from said he cut the black wire because he did not want pay for the switch too.

The white wire with the female connector..this attaches to what exactly

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 Post subject: Re: OEM roof light..am I missing anything else?
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 3:04 pm 
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The Overhead (Roof) lights switch, relay, and wiring is not a simple circuit. See drawing below.
The light switch is also connected to the BODY CONTROL MODULE and has several inputs and output circuits.
The switch you see in the eBay link with the wiring is simply a switch that someone cut off the wiring and left them connected to the switch.
The wiring harness actually "Plugs" into the back of the LightBar Switch.

Without the proper factory wiring for the LightBar switch, it may be simpler to just wire and connect your own wiring, relay, and control switch like I did when adding additional driving LED lights. If you need more info, let me know I can post wiring information and diagrams. :wink:

The wiring schematic for the Overhead Roof lights can be viewed in the FSM in Section 8W, Page 50-16 & Page 50-17.
Link to view all Jeep KJ Factory Service Manuals online:> http://www.colorado4wheel.com/manuals/Jeep/KJ/

Link to 2005 Jeep KJ FSM:> 2005JeepKJServiceManual.pdf
See Section 8W, WIRING.

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 Post subject: Re: OEM roof light..am I missing anything else?
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 5:05 pm 
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Yes wiring information and diagrams would help,thank you.

I am still not clear on what I am missing,other than the switch and relay.
Where can I get that wiring harness that plugs in to the switch?

I am still not sure where the ends of my wiring go.
The pic I included shows the black wire has been cut..I was told buy the seller that this connects to the switch?
The white wire with the female connector connects to what?


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 Post subject: Re: OEM roof light..am I missing anything else?
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 10:43 am 
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White is probably power and black ground. Just hook them driect to the battery to check. Reverse them if it doesnt work. But shoudlnt matter for a light...i would buy a premade wiring kit with relay and fuse if i were you since you dont have the factory wiring. You can find generic kits on eBay and amazon

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 Post subject: Re: OEM roof light..am I missing anything else?
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 2:08 pm 
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The Black wire is the ground wire.
There are four (4) white wires each with a different color tracer on them as listed below.
According to Mopar and the FSM, there is NO solid white wire listed.
See this thread in LOST:> viewtopic.php?f=3&t=80153

Pin Information
Cav Circuit Gauge Color Function
1 A904 14 RD FUSED B(+)
2 L8 14 WT/DG LIGHTBAR SWITCHED OUTPUT
3 Z940 20 BK GROUND
4 F942 20 PK/LG FUSED IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT (RUN-START)
5 L78 18 WT/OR FUSED PARK LAMP RELAY OUTPUT
6 E2 20 OR/BR PANEL LAMPS DRIVER
7 L43 18 WT/DB FUSED LEFT LOW BEAM OUTPUT
8 L18 20 WT/LG LIGHTBAR SWITCH SENSE

WIRE COLORS
1. RD = Red
2. WT/DG = White with Dark Green tracer
3. BK = Black
4. PK/LG = Pink with Light Green tracer
5. WT/OR = White with Orange tracer
6. OR/BR = Orange with Brown tracer
7. WT/DB = White with Dark Brown tracer
8. WT/LG = White with Light Green tracer


LIGHTBAR SWITCH CONNECTOR (RENEGADE) - 8 WAY http://connectors.dcctools.com/home.htm
Full Repair Kit: Terminal Repair Kit
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 5:22 pm 
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When looking for a premade kit,what voltage and amperage do i need?
According to the info supplied by WWDiesel,there are 3 different gauges of wire;14 18 and 20


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 Post subject: Re: OEM roof light..am I missing anything else?
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 5:33 pm 
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bladerunner555 wrote:
When looking for a premade kit,what voltage and amperage do i need?
According to the info supplied by WWDiesel,there are 3 different gauges of wire;14 18 and 20

I would use 12 or 14 for power to relay
14 or larger for relay to each light
14 for ground wires
16 or 18 for control wires from switch to relay.
Whatever you do, be sure and have 30 or 40 amp fuse in the power wire from the battery + to the relay.

or
Buy a wiring kit that comes with switch, relay, and wiring for fog lights and use it.
Like or similar to this one:> https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/pro-comp- ... DFCW-76400
Pro Comp Light Wiring Harness with Switch and Relay - 76400
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Google "Fog light wiring kit"
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 Post subject: Re: OEM roof light..am I missing anything else?
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 6:31 pm 
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Thanks so much guys.
I took a much closer look(with a magnifying glass..hey,I'm nearly 50)
The wire in the pic with the female connector at end is actually white and brown


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 Post subject: Re: OEM roof light..am I missing anything else?
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 6:53 pm 
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Ok,just to be clear,all I need are.?

switch
relay
wires of various color and gauge

The switch needs to be how many pins?

The relay needs how many pins?


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 10:38 pm 
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bladerunner555 wrote:
Ok,just to be clear,all I need are.?
switch
relay
wires of various color and gauge
The switch needs to be how many pins?
The relay needs how many pins?

And a FUSE!

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 Post subject: Re: OEM roof light..am I missing anything else?
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 11:51 pm 
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bladerunner555 wrote:
Ok,just to be clear,all I need are.?

switch
relay
wires of various color and gauge

The switch needs to be how many pins?

The relay needs how many pins?


Honestly. Just get the complete wiring kit.
Here is one i have used from Amazon in a couple applications

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073VMBMZ7/re ... yvwBUggLIg

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 Post subject: Re: OEM roof light..am I missing anything else?
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:11 am 
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Since it is for the roof light bar,I should order the one lead kit?
I ask because the link you gave is for two leads.


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 Post subject: Re: OEM roof light..am I missing anything else?
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 10:00 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: OEM roof light..am I missing anything else?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:44 am 
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Hello, will anyone have this updated thread, I just got an original light bar that a 06 Renegade had, I plan to put it on my KJ 07 sport, I have the button and light harness, could you help me on how to install it if possible Using those harnesses I have, what do I need? I share some photos of the harnesses I have, the white one is the one connected to the button on the board:

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