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| Author: | CMax26az [ Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | if you could start over......what lift would you pick? |
if you could start over......what lift kit would you pick? I'm trying to figure out what kit we want, we do know we want either 2.5 or 3 in lift. because we have a set of Rubicon take offs (the 16" Moab wheels with the Goodyear MT/R's 245/75/16's) and i want thoes to fit without rubbing. We are trying to stay around the $300.00 mark for the lift. Anyone have a kit they are selling? Ideas? suggestions? comments? |
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| Author: | corwyyn [ Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:20 pm ] |
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While I like my Daystar lift, if I had it to do over again I think I would have saved up for either the Rusty's suspension lift or the Frankenlift. There are folks on here that run both with good results. |
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| Author: | phxtoad [ Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Lift and misc. advice |
Craig, I still run the Daystar 2.5" with Rancho struts/shocks with no real problems with the lift itself. However, you will probably go through upper control arms consistantly since they will contact the coils at full droop and tweak the upper ball joints. The upper ball joints are non replaceable and non-greaseable - so you are stuck with getting new arms. I went through 2 1/2 sets before getting Al's Uppers. No issues since then. Now, if you plan on loading the front end with a bumper and/or winch, the OEM coils will not cut it. Mine are sagging (plus they are 6 years old and have 95K miles on them). I'm debating biting the bullet and getting the Frankenlift fronts with HD coils at least. It is clearly the best set-up... Also recommend replacing your lower ball joints with Moogs immediately. My dos centavos... Todd |
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| Author: | rkeegstra [ Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:38 pm ] |
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We ran our '06 stock for about nine months, doing such trails as the back way to Crown King and Chivo Falls, before we went to a Frankenlift. We just went out to AllJ in Big Bear and had them do it - lift (with the Heavy Duty OME struts and shocks all around), Al's upper control arms, Rubicon wheels & tires. We are both extremely happy with it and would do it again, although we did have to save our pennies. A lot of pennies. Note that there will probably have to be some cutting and pounding in the front wheel wells to prevent rubbing even with the lift. I still need to trim a little of the inner plastic well in front of the wheels where they rub approaching full turn lock, and going in reverse the tire lugs can catch on the plastic and make a heck of a noise. See http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... 647#238292 for some idea of the air dam trimming that was done on mine. My 1/50 of a buck - there's no rush, unless you really want to do some really difficult trails RIGHT NOW! Montana Mountain is easy enough stock, for example, depending on what the washes on the east side look like. Russ |
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| Author: | M&P40 [ Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:46 pm ] |
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i am happy with the frankenlift. i run 245/75/16 no rubbing at all. the only thing i would have done differently was get Als arms when i got the lift so i did not have to take the front end apart twice. |
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| Author: | oldhockeyvb [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:56 pm ] |
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I have run my Rusty's suspension lift for over three years now with zero problems. I would definitely choose it again. I don't have any experience with the frankenlift but plenty of people like that as well. Neither is available for $300 but you get what you pay for. Do it once, do it right and be done. It will be cheaper in the long run. |
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| Author: | Signcutter21 [ Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:18 pm ] |
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Had the Daystar, it was good, just a bit rough of aride, or so i thought. Switched up to the Frankenlift. I like the ride quality more. Like M&P40 said, better to get the a arms with it now than do it later. Many people have been happy with Rustys, Daystar and Franky. As we talked about in fits stay away from the RRO OTT. later, mike ps there's a frankenlift front end for sale right now in the sale section for 500. |
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| Author: | CMax26az [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:55 pm ] |
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I have an oppertunity to buy a Rockfather II for 500.00 from a guy who bought it and the wife said no, brand new, never installed. NOTE: im not buying it from RRO, i see all over this site that they are a nightmare to deal with. Im buying it from a person not RRO. What i want to know is, should i grab it or save up for the franklift and spend 600 MORE... Is the Rockfather II a good or bad setup? worth 500.00? seems many people have it and are happy with it... thoughts...? |
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| Author: | oldhockeyvb [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:07 pm ] |
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I'd save up. Check the board. I don't recall hearing good things about the rockfather. |
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| Author: | CMax26az [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:08 pm ] |
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oldhockeyvb wrote: I'd save up. Check the board. I don't recall hearing good things about the rockfather.
I decided to pass on it... we will save up for the Frankenlift and do the A-arms at the same time |
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| Author: | dynamike [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:19 pm ] |
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great choice
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| Author: | CMax26az [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:45 pm ] |
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OK then which kit to choose? what are the advantages of the OME shocks over the ranchos? thoughts? Standard Frankenlift I: $835.53 The Standard Frankenlift Kit uses Pre-Assembled Rancho 17505 Front Struts, OME927 H/D Front and Rear OME948 H/D Coil Springs, Rear Rancho 17004 Shocks, All J Products Proprietary Poly Parts, Left and Right Daystar Upper Strut Plates, All Hardware and stem cushions needed, Rear Bump Stops. Also included with each kit is an original artwork Frankenlift Decal! Frankenlift I Premium: uses OME132L Long Travel Shocks and Rancho 17505 Struts: $875.39. Frankenlift II: Uses OME NS131 Front Struts instead of the Rancho struts - uses Rancho shocks: $956.61 Frankenlift II Premium Kit: Uses OME NS131 Front Struts and Uses OME132L Long Travel Rear Shocks instead of the Rancho counterparts: $996.59 |
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| Author: | phxtoad [ Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:45 am ] |
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The OME coils and the other items are the key to the lift. The struts can always be replaced or upgraded down the road. I'd think if you were going to save any $ off the bat, then go with the Rancho's to start... |
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| Author: | CMax26az [ Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:12 pm ] |
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what about the A-arms?? are they needed? recomended? I have heard some other folks say they wish hey had done both the frankenlift and the Al's arms at the same time... |
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| Author: | rkeegstra [ Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:34 pm ] |
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The replacement A-arms have a greasable ball joint, plus they make it easier to align the front end post-lift. Otherwise I think you're close to the extreme of the adjustment. Just remember if you want to upgrade the shocks/struts or A-arms you will have to take the whole thing apart again... |
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