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Author:  USMCKJ [ Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:09 pm ]
Post subject:  CAI idea, questions.
I've been researching the best way to do a CAI and so far I've seen the best combo is the stock box, an Amsoil filter, and LTT's custom intake tube.

I've been thinking about this, and had a few ideas I want to try, but I want to run them by everyone here first. Would it be possible to, instead of using a flat filter, use a conical filter attached to the intake tube inside the stock (or modified) airbox? From everything I have read more cold air equals more power. So if you were to wrap your stock box in heat wrap, replace the restrictive stock air tube with a better flowing, heat wrapped tube, use LTT's intake system, and an enclosed conical filter would that be the best possible setup aside from a true ram air system?
Author:  tommudd [ Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CAI idea, questions.
In theory it may seem like it would be a good idea.
The KJ gets enough air from a flat filter to run good
I have the Amsoil, stock box and 3.5 inch tube going out to the grill.
better than anything I ran over the last 150,000 miles

with LTTs setup and an Amsoil flat filter / stock box you'll be good
Author:  USMCKJ [ Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CAI idea, questions.
tommudd wrote:
In theory it may seem like it would be a good idea.
The KJ gets enough air from a flat filter to run good
I have the Amsoil, stock box and 3.5 inch tube going out to the grill.
better than anything I ran over the last 150,000 miles

with LTTs setup and an Amsoil flat filter / stock box you'll be good


If I was looking for good, I would have joined the ARMY :lol: I prefer best

I'm looking to get as much power out of the engine as is possible for each particular modification, up to a point. Sure, the flat filter may be enough for a mostly stock motor to deal with, but what if the motor were built up to a point where it required more fuel and more air.

Mostly this is just me brainstorming and seeing what people think of it. I think if a motor were flashed, cammed, with headers and exhaust and a high flow throttle body, it would need more air than the flat filter could supply.
Author:  tommudd [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CAI idea, questions.
This is true but are you going to spend the thousands it will take to get to that point.
Maybe I should of said the best. :ROTFL:
Its a Jeep not a dragster :wink:
Author:  JJsTJ [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CAI idea, questions.
tommudd wrote:
This is true but are you going to spend the thousands it will take to get to that point.
Maybe I should of said the best. :ROTFL:
Its a Jeep not a dragster :wink:


ditto.
the original combo you describe will be able to provide more air than the 3.7L can use at any rpm even w/ a dirty filter. I have thought about messing w/ a cylindrical, enclosed filter housing, similar to ones used on Rovers for example, but the effort is not worth it as looking at those types of setups offer no advantage over a simple drop-in w/ extra cold air ducted to the stock box.
Author:  liquidxit2 [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CAI idea, questions.
The K and N FIPK was a worthwhile upgrade IMHO. Didnt make the KJ any faster, but the acceleration is alot cleaner and throttle response is alot snappier. Youll never get great gains out of bolt ons for the 3.7l, but you can improve driveability with some minor mods. ~$500 in "go fast" parts and the jeep is truly different. Faster no.

The mods I did made the 3.7l fit my needs even better and added a nice engine and exhaust note for my cruising pleasure.
Author:  15e_soldier [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CAI idea, questions.
USMCKJ wrote:
tommudd wrote:
In theory it may seem like it would be a good idea.
The KJ gets enough air from a flat filter to run good
I have the Amsoil, stock box and 3.5 inch tube going out to the grill.
better than anything I ran over the last 150,000 miles

with LTTs setup and an Amsoil flat filter / stock box you'll be good


If I was looking for good, I would have joined the ARMY :lol: I prefer best

.

whoa whoa whoa whats wrong with the ARMY? We are the best!!!
Author:  JeepinJarhead03 [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CAI idea, questions.
well.. i don't necessarily agree with the "even with a dirty filter" part JJ :P

however, even with the mentioned engine modifications the flat filter setup provides enough airflow to meet the airflow demands - and with the mentioned flat filter choice.. the air is actually clean

and since clean is the point, and there are no flow restrictions worth mentioning with the flat filter in question, and the stock airbox has been shown to provide the best airflow from numerous sources over aftermarket CAIs - the LTT with Tube or stock box modified for ram induction via the hood (which is very simple might I add if you don't mind cutting your hood..)

a conical within the stock box will provide at the most, adequate, dirtier, airflow


and.. Nothings WRRRRONNNG with the Army.. just haven't figured out exactly what you fellers are the BEST at yet ;)
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CAI idea, questions.
JeepinJarhead03 wrote:
well.. i don't necessarily agree with the "even with a dirty filter" part JJ :P

however, even with the mentioned engine modifications the flat filter setup provides enough airflow to meet the airflow demands - and with the mentioned flat filter choice.. the air is actually clean

and since clean is the point, and there are no flow restrictions worth mentioning with the flat filter in question, and the stock airbox has been shown to provide the best airflow from numerous sources over aftermarket CAIs - the LTT with Tube or stock box modified for ram induction via the hood (which is very simple might I add if you don't mind cutting your hood..)

a conical within the stock box will provide at the most, adequate, dirtier, airflow


and.. Nothings WRRRRONNNG with the Army.. just haven't figured out exactly what you fellers are the BEST at yet ;)
Actually you can run a 90% clogged air filter and get the same performance and mpg's as a brand new filter thanks to OBDII and all of those sensors it requires.

But I do agree with the last statement,and I've been in both services.
Author:  cgass [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CAI idea, questions.
JeepinJarhead03 wrote:


and.. Nothings WRRRRONNNG with the Army.. just haven't figured out exactly what you fellers are the BEST at yet ;)

Occupying and doing all the things the other guys do best for a very long time
Author:  arengant [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CAI idea, questions.
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Author:  TexasRock [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CAI idea, questions.
OMFG! That's why I turned in my resignation papers after 16 years...

anyway... LTT sells an OUTSTANDING CAI that will do and out perform anything you have in mind for a fraction of the price.
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