Hello from Canada

JeepAdvantage · **Joined:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:33 pm **Posts:** 32

Hello all

I'm planning to purchase my first Jeep at the beginning of September. What Jeep your asking? A KJ of course. 05-06, Renegade or Limited probably.

Anything I should keep an eye out for when shopping for one? I plan on sticking to Jeep dealers so I can get a Chrysler Certified KJ.

Great forum btw, lots of useful info

Fulltimer · **Posted:** Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:21 pm

Just make sure it is a 4X4! :lol:

Welcome to the group!

Terry

linewarbr · **Posted:** Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:26 pm

Try to get a CRD. . . :wink:

JeepAdvantage · **Joined:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:33 pm **Posts:** 32

Fulltimer wrote:

Just make sure it is a 4X4! :lol:

Welcome to the group!

Terry

Lol, yes of course 4x4, to be more specific, Selec-trac :wink:

linewarbr wrote:

Try to get a CRD. . . :wink:

I've looked and I found 2, but Sport models. I like the bling of Limited lol :lol:

linewarbr · **Posted:** Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:52 pm

ALL CRD's are 4x4. . . . .

JeepAdvantage · **Joined:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:33 pm **Posts:** 32

linewarbr wrote:

ALL CRD's are 4x4. . . . .

Yeah they all come with selec-trac right? I really love the luxury of the Limited model, but having a CRD would be totally cool. Id have to settle for a Sport model....Sport CRD or Limited 3.7...hmmmm decisions decisions

Diggerfreek · **Posted:** Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:00 am

Welcome

JeepAdvantage · **Joined:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:33 pm **Posts:** 32

Diggerfreek wrote:

Welcome

Thank you

Guest · **Posted:** Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:37 am

Just FYI, most people here would advise you to stick with an '05 rather than the 06, because the '06 has ESP, traction control, and a ton of other driving nannies standard that most do not like.

ThunderbirdJunkie would mob an '05 6 speed Rennie if he were to do it all over again...MINUS the lightbar...

linewarbr · **Posted:** Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:27 am

ThunderbirdJunkie wrote:

Just FYI, most people here would advise you to stick with an '05 rather than the 06, because the '06 has ESP, traction control, and a ton of other driving nannies standard that most do not like.

ThunderbirdJunkie would mob an '05 6 speed Rennie if he were to do it all over again...MINUS the lightbar...

Yeah, if I had had a choice between the CRD and a Rennie 6-speed, both 4x4 with similar miles and options, I would have been hard-pressed too. I love to row my own gears, as opposed to a slushbox. However, being able to brew my own fuel when the world ends would have to win out. . . :wink:

Not sure what the transfer case is called, but it has 2wd, 4wd Part-time, 4wd Full-Time (similar to AWD) and 4wd Low range.

JeepAdvantage · **Joined:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:33 pm **Posts:** 32

ThunderbirdJunkie wrote:

Just FYI, most people here would advise you to stick with an '05 rather than the 06, because the '06 has ESP, traction control, and a ton of other driving nannies standard that most do not like.

ThunderbirdJunkie would mob an '05 6 speed Rennie if he were to do it all over again...MINUS the lightbar...

Well I'm not planning on doing any serious off roading. 90% of the time it will be driven around town. The reason I want a KJ...a selec-trac KJ...is that we get a ton of snow here during the winter and also because, during hunting season, I can "jump" into a field or take a trail to get to my spot.

What is wrong with ESP and traction control anyway?

linewarbr · **Posted:** Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:26 am

JeepAdvantage wrote:

ThunderbirdJunkie wrote:

Just FYI, most people here would advise you to stick with an '05 rather than the 06, because the '06 has ESP, traction control, and a ton of other driving nannies standard that most do not like.

ThunderbirdJunkie would mob an '05 6 speed Rennie if he were to do it all over again...MINUS the lightbar...

Well I'm not planning on doing any serious off roading. 90% of the time it will be driven around town. The reason I want a KJ...a selec-trac KJ...is that we get a ton of snow here during the winter and also because, during hunting season, I can "jump" into a field or take a trail to get to my spot.

What is wrong with ESP and traction control anyway?

Serious wheelers don't like it because it can mess you up on approach. Say you're about to ascend a muddy hill, and you need to stay on the throttle to avoid flipping over. Your left rear wheel starts to lose traction, so the ESP system brakes on the other wheels because it thinks you're on a flat road and about to spin out. But, you end up losing forward momentum and backflipping donw the hill.

I looked in my owner's manual, and the CRD's sold in North America are all equipped with the Selec-Trac.

JeepAdvantage · **Joined:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:33 pm **Posts:** 32

linewarbr wrote:

JeepAdvantage wrote:

ThunderbirdJunkie wrote:

Just FYI, most people here would advise you to stick with an '05 rather than the 06, because the '06 has ESP, traction control, and a ton of other driving nannies standard that most do not like.

ThunderbirdJunkie would mob an '05 6 speed Rennie if he were to do it all over again...MINUS the lightbar...

Well I'm not planning on doing any serious off roading. 90% of the time it will be driven around town. The reason I want a KJ...a selec-trac KJ...is that we get a ton of snow here during the winter and also because, during hunting season, I can "jump" into a field or take a trail to get to my spot.

What is wrong with ESP and traction control anyway?

Serious wheelers don't like it because it can mess you up on approach. Say you're about to ascend a muddy hill, and you need to stay on the throttle to avoid flipping over. Your left rear wheel starts to lose traction, so the ESP system brakes on the other wheels because it thinks you're on a flat road and about to spin out. But, you end up losing forward momentum and backflipping donw the hill.

I looked in my owner's manual, and the CRD's sold in North America are all equipped with the Selec-Trac.

Ah, gotcha. I don't think I will be going down muddy hills. The most I will be doing is driving through a farmer's field or driving down gravel/muddy trail with no inclines.

Yeah I found the 06 brochure un pdf format and all CRDs have selec-trac.

Murphyman · **Posted:** Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:01 pm

JeepAdvantage wrote:

ThunderbirdJunkie wrote:

Just FYI, most people here would advise you to stick with an '05 rather than the 06, because the '06 has ESP, traction control, and a ton of other driving nannies standard that most do not like.

ThunderbirdJunkie would mob an '05 6 speed Rennie if he were to do it all over again...MINUS the lightbar...

Well I'm not planning on doing any serious off roading. 90% of the time it will be driven around town. The reason I want a KJ...a selec-trac KJ...is that we get a ton of snow here during the winter and also because, during hunting season, I can "jump" into a field or take a trail to get to my spot.

What is wrong with ESP and traction control anyway?

Not to be smart, but 10% of your time offroad is a lot :lol:

. 1 mile offroad for every 10 miles driven. That's impressive.

JeepAdvantage · **Joined:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:33 pm **Posts:** 32

Murphyman wrote:

JeepAdvantage wrote:

ThunderbirdJunkie wrote:

Just FYI, most people here would advise you to stick with an '05 rather than the 06, because the '06 has ESP, traction control, and a ton of other driving nannies standard that most do not like.

ThunderbirdJunkie would mob an '05 6 speed Rennie if he were to do it all over again...MINUS the lightbar...

Well I'm not planning on doing any serious off roading. 90% of the time it will be driven around town. The reason I want a KJ...a selec-trac KJ...is that we get a ton of snow here during the winter and also because, during hunting season, I can "jump" into a field or take a trail to get to my spot.

What is wrong with ESP and traction control anyway?

Not to be smart, but 10% of your time offroad is a lot :lol:

. 1 mile offroad for every 10 miles driven. That's impressive.

I said around town...the other 10% is highway and some offroading :wink:

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