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Author:  freetolio [ Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:01 pm ]
Post subject:  2-one din units or 1-two din unit, will either fit?
I have recently become interested in installing a gps navigation system in my 2005 KJ sport. However, I don't want to dole out the $1300 or so for a factory nav system. I have a nice spare 1-din JVC stereo with an external changer that I'd like to put into the vehicle.

So my question is this: Would it be possible for me to double stack two 1din units, should I just try to cram a 2-din aftermarket nav into the hole, or should I not try to put anything bigger than the factory 1.5din?

The double stacking assumes I'll be using a touchscreen motorized monitor that would be connected to a PC running GPS nav, and music software. Either the carputer, or aftermarket nav/music system would be costly. I do have a spare junk PC that I could use for a carputer, but something tells me that even the mobo alone wouldn't fit under either of the front seats thus requiring me to purchase a mini motherboard to build a lil' pc.

Any advice would be helpful.
Author:  hoss75 [ Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:13 pm ]
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darn you and your carputer .. I'm guessing this is something you didn't make up, but it's the first I've heard of it and has the wheels in my head turning and my wallet running the other way! I've got enough spare computer parts to build like 10 computers.... hmm...
Author:  kevh [ Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:31 pm ]
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seen the pc thing done a few times for an mp3 server. just be careful with disk access and bumps/etc. pretty easy to jog a read head and scratch a platter (or all of them)

if you were going to try to modify the factory hole for a 2 din you might get away with it. problem is there is very little room above or below the factory 1.5 din hole. the trim around the factory radio and the radio itself comes out pretty easy so you could check clearances pretty easily.

most in dash dvd players have extra inputs for things like a gps unit. go with a 1 din in-dash dvd (with an adapter for the 1.5 din hole) then hook a gps unit up to it that has an video out.

better yet, do the in dash dvd and hook your pc up to it for the gps. most video cards have an s-video out which you can throw an adapter on to make it connect right up (alot of vid cards even come with the adapter). then it would hook right up to the head unit

another option would be to get a display only overhead mount like
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-zbDZbDwGioL/cgi-bin/ProdGroup.asp?g=170450&avf=N
Author:  freetolio [ Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:06 pm ]
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Yeah, I wondered about how the HD would handle the jarring.

Darn, I don't really feel comfortable with any sort of cutting of the stock trim to fit a new unit in the dash.

Would the overhead mount cause any problems later like a sagging headliner?

This all seems like more trouble than it is worth now that I think about it. I think I'm probably just going to wait until single din GPS/stereo units hit a pricepoint that I can afford.

Thanks for the advice though.



In the mean time, I'm going to begin fabricating a fiberglass sub enclosure for the trunk of my Libby. I'll post a link to the project page once I create it.
I'm not rich by any means, I just have all this decent stereo equipment from my former Buick Riviera (RIP after a wreck in a WV blizzard) that I'm just itching to install.
Author:  billforde [ Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:28 pm ]
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freetolio wrote:
Yeah, I wondered about how the HD would handle the jarring.

Darn, I don't really feel comfortable with any sort of cutting of the stock trim to fit a new unit in the dash.

Would the overhead mount cause any problems later like a sagging headliner?

This all seems like more trouble than it is worth now that I think about it. I think I'm probably just going to wait until single din GPS/stereo units hit a pricepoint that I can afford.

Thanks for the advice though.



In the mean time, I'm going to begin fabricating a fiberglass sub enclosure for the trunk of my Libby. I'll post a link to the project page once I create it.
I'm not rich by any means, I just have all this decent stereo equipment from my former Buick Riviera (RIP after a wreck in a WV blizzard) that I'm just itching to install.

I currenly have a CarPc in my liberty and havent had a problem with any jarring. I am using a 2.5 in drive which is suppose to handle bumps better than a 3.5. Unless u move the climate controls, you wont be able to fit any double din equipment into the console.
check out my site for pictures.
Author:  hoss75 [ Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:50 pm ]
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I'd definetely use a laptop disk drive for an application like this
Author:  kevh [ Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:15 am ]
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freetolio wrote:
In the mean time, I'm going to begin fabricating a fiberglass sub enclosure for the trunk of my Libby. I'll post a link to the project page once I create it.


are there any good sites to learn how to use fiberglass? i want to fabricate a sub enclosure to fit under the rear seat. with the way the floor dips under the rear seat (and with removing the jack on the passenger side) there is enough depth for a pair of 10s. i just dont know anything about laying fiberglass.

heck, if pimp my ride can form sub enclosures it cant be too hard :lol:
Author:  billforde [ Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:34 am ]
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kevh wrote:
freetolio wrote:
In the mean time, I'm going to begin fabricating a fiberglass sub enclosure for the trunk of my Libby. I'll post a link to the project page once I create it.


are there any good sites to learn how to use fiberglass? i want to fabricate a sub enclosure to fit under the rear seat. with the way the floor dips under the rear seat (and with removing the jack on the passenger side) there is enough depth for a pair of 10s. i just dont know anything about laying fiberglass.

heck, if pimp my ride can form sub enclosures it cant be too hard :lol:

You can check out the www.mp3car.com forum. They have a discussion group just for fabrication.
Author:  skrracing [ Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  This will help
http://lostkjwest.com/images/doowacky.wav later...Clint
Author:  Se7enLC [ Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:28 pm ]
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kevh wrote:
are there any good sites to learn how to use fiberglass? i want to fabricate a sub enclosure to fit under the rear seat. with the way the floor dips under the rear seat (and with removing the jack on the passenger side) there is enough depth for a pair of 10s.


Don't forget that when you fold the rear seats forward the seat bottoms lower a little. Might make a difference in the measurements.
Author:  freetolio [ Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:34 pm ]
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I have some good, free, project pages for DIY fiberglass that I'll post when I get back to my home PC where they reside.


I considered using the space under the back seat for storing the amp. Beware, things may be crushed when you fold the seat down because they pivot lower to the floor. [EDIT:]The guy above me beat me to posting this.

My experience with fiberglass thus far is limited to whitewater canoe repair, and that is easy to do because it doesn't have to look good.

The usual order of things with fiberglass enclosure builds is:
-Protection with gloves, eyewear, particulate or charcoal mask.
-Drop cloth of plastic (test it to see if the resin eats through it first) on all nearby surfaces.
-Lots of masking tape, painters tape, or foil to cover the surface the glass is applied to.
-Glass several layers allowing each to cure individually. This requires the destruction of a bunch of paintbrushes after the resin hardens on them.
-Trim the edges of this semi-enclosure.
-Put some wooden sub rings on wooden dowels that you hot glue to them inside of the semi-enclosure. Use T-nuts in the rings to create thread holes for reusability.
-Stretch a polyester/cotton fabric over the rings and around the edges of the semi-enclosure and tack the edges down using spray adhesive, tape, whatever works. It must be tight with no/few wrinkles.
-Apply resin to the fabric. Cure
-Lay up more glass on top of that until it is super strong. Cure
Cut out the holes in front of the sub rings.
-Lay up more glass on the back edges of the sub rings for added support. Cure
-Then you carpet or paint the box.

Painting requires using bondo and sanding to get a super smooth surface
prior to the normal painting routine with primer, paint, etc.
I've read that you can use leftover resin (mixed to be very thin with less hardener) like a clear coat.
Author:  kevh [ Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:25 pm ]
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thx for the tips/info all.

i will keep you updated
Author:  freetolio [ Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Here is a good place to start
http://chris.pfharlock.com/glass/index.htm

This is fiberglassing for beginners, and it is very helpful.

My own project has stalled before it started. I ordered all the equipment, but I got temporarily hired unexpectedly during the final weeks of summer that I thought I'd have off. Now I'm back at school with little access to chem respirators, tools, and the like. But I wish everyone else luck in their endeavors for now.
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