update on oil in intake yields $750 bill

naturist · **Posted:** Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:19 pm

went in to see the shop that took over the job after the Jeep dealer kicked me out. They got the needed part ordered 10 days ago, and it hasn't come in yet. The parts guy says the system reports it "was released to the distributor" which means it ought to arrive in the next few days, although they also for some reason have put the date 5/18 on it. He doesn't know what that is about, but if the part doesn't show up by the end of the week, he'll start chasing it. CRD's been out of service now for 19 days on this one, my attorney says 30 days makes it a Lemon Law case for sure.

So, folks, if you have oil in your intake from a CCV that doesn't do the job, be sure to put an air/oil separator on it lest you too find your Libby parked until DC deigns to send you a part, for which, btw, they will charge you $650, no warranty coverage if it gets any liquid of any sort in it. Labor on installation and intake cleaning will likely add another $600 or so to the tab. Doesn't that sound like fun to you, too?

Ranger1 · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:40 pm **Posts:** 1137

Exactly which part is it? $650 for a sensor sounds pretty high. The only sensor I can find that is exposed to the intake is the combination air pressure/temperature sensor.

naturist · **Posted:** Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:38 pm

It is listed as part # 5142799AA, and while no description was given, the mechanic who worked on it was convinced it was a "throttle body," no doubt because it is located where a gasser would have a throttle body. I think it is a mass air flow sensor, which no doubt would have pressure/flow rate/temperature sensors in it.

Ranger1 · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:40 pm **Posts:** 1137

That part comes up as an egr valve on the site listed below, and sells at $443 instead of retail $592.00. This site sells chrysler parts. I am wondering why they are replacing an egr valve and calling it a sensor.

http://www.moparpart.com/dps_index.html?iorb=4764

PS: This is the first time I've seen a retail cost for an egr valve for the CRD. I checked the part number on my egr replacement last year and it is 5166555AB and lists on this same site as MSRP $272.00 or $203.75.

Different part numbers for 2 different egr valves.

naturist · **Posted:** Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:28 pm

I'll be damned.

So it does, Ranger1.

So let me get this straight, besides screwing me over IN the shop, AND throwing me out without actually fixing the vehicle, AND charging me nearly $300 (cash only please, no checks or credit cards), the "diagnosis" they claimed as part of the justification for the $300 was bogus to boot? Did I get that right?

Well, I knew the EGR was troublesome (3rd one is already in the vehicle, and malfunctioning), but it was this sensor unit that brought everything to a screeching halt.

I guess I will have no choice but to call the sensored word up and demand the right part number. (expletive deleted).

Ranger1 · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:40 pm **Posts:** 1137

It do seem odd. If that part number wasn't a mistake, I wonder how they could blame a failed egr on biodiesel. With what you reported about their antics, it might not be a bad idea to get a 2nd opinion from another jeep dealership.

naturist · **Posted:** Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:44 am

hey, perhaps it should have been a red flag, but when the EGR first failed at 4,000 miles, they were all but certain it was due to the biodiesel, in spite of DC's telling them it wasn't so. From that moment on, the execs were satisfied about the biodiesel, and the tech was convinced that was it.

Goglio704 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:00 pm

Naturist,

Let me see if I understand this correctly:

DC is unwilling to cover the damage because of liquid in the intake?

What is the liquid?

If it is engine oil (surely it is) I would think the fact that the engine itself is putting oil into the intake would constitute a separate problem that should be fixed under warranty. I have heard of warranty scenarios with other makes where the manufacturer would only cover the root failure and not the subsequent damage. The scenario was something like a fan clutch failure causing the fan to hit the radiator. Fan clutch was covered, not the fan, not the radiator. If they won't warranty the subsequent damage, maybe the answer is to pursue the root cause. I don't think they have a fix for the root cause, but members of this forum could sure show it is common.

Just some thoughts - not fully formed ones at that. Good luck.

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