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 Post subject: Aftermarket Head Gasket only universal thickness
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:10 am 
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VM Diesel Specialists in the UK offered me an aftermarket head gasket only. They said it is universal thickness. What do you guys think should I go for it?

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 Post subject: Re: Aftermarket Head Gasket only universal thickness
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:11 pm 
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Find out the actual thickness and compare to OEM specs to see if it will work. If it is the proper thickness for your application OR the same thickness as the 2-hole gasket, I would say go for it. That's interesting, because I asked about a year ago if they could sell me just the gasket and they said no and never mentioned a "universal" gasket. I know CEvans from IDparts has been looking for a gasket-only option for quite some time, he may be interested to learn about this and look into it a little deeper...

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 Post subject: Re: Aftermarket Head Gasket only universal thickness
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:35 am 
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1.52mm thick

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 Post subject: Re: Aftermarket Head Gasket only universal thickness
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:13 pm 
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TXriverrat wrote:
1.52mm thick


That is the thickest OEM gasket available, so I say go for it! Geordi has given us some statistical significance by using the 1.52mm gasket in all of his rebuilds involving the head gasket replacement. So far I have not heard of anyone having trouble with it from him or otherwise. That will be a good option for people who have or are going to use the ARP head studs. Especially if someone like IDParts picks them up and sells them state-side so we don't have to mess with the international shipping every time.

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 Post subject: Re: Aftermarket Head Gasket only universal thickness
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:52 pm 
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APC9199 wrote:
Find out the actual thickness and compare to OEM specs to see if it will work. If it is the proper thickness for your application OR the same thickness as the 2-hole gasket, I would say go for it. That's interesting, because I asked about a year ago if they could sell me just the gasket and they said no and never mentioned a "universal" gasket. I know CEvans from IDparts has been looking for a gasket-only option for quite some time, he may be interested to learn about this and look into it a little deeper...

head gasket only are on ebay out of EU in all thicknesses. Elring brand.
For the thiner ones as well as the 1.52mm put each of these numbers in an ebay search :

272474438281

162842856492

162712822962

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 Post subject: Re: Aftermarket Head Gasket only universal thickness
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I've worked on 80 engines so far, and about a third to half of them have been head gaskets. Every one for the last 3 years at least has been a two-hole - And I'm not aware of a single one that has subsequently leaked.

Based on my observations of the engine teardown and subsequent performance after rebuild, there is not a statistically significant issue with the compression ratio to warrant concern about the thickness from one size to the next. They start quickly (or as quickly as before) after the work. But on engines with thinner gaskets, I HAVE observed concerning indications that the liner lip has contacted the underside of the head and caused a dent / indentation - this is VERY bad and should definitely have a thicker gasket to prevent this, since this head design lacks an actual copper fire ring in the head. The steel liner should NEVER contact the aluminum head.

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