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 Post subject: Gauging Interest: Aftermarket CRD Intercooler Manufacturing
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:45 pm 
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Over the past few days, I've been researching alternatives to the OEM intercooler for the KJ CRD given that the OEM units are now discontinued. What has become apparent is that there are no particularly good alternatives out there: the main issue seems to be the thin core that Chrysler used. At 1" in thickness, it's far skinnier than anything else typically found in service, and thus not easy to find.

The good news: I may have located a company that can build new intercoolers which would be a drop-in replacement for the OEM units, with aluminium tanks being a possibility. Nothing is confirmed at this point, largely because there are two things that I need:

  • An undamaged (except for the usual crack) OEM intercooler. Anything that's been in a head-on collision or damaged once removed is unusable; it needs to be straight and complete, including the tanks.
  • An idea of how many people would want one.

With respect to the first requirement, I need to get a stock intercooler to them so that they can take measurements, which is why I can't use one that's been through an accident. Sending them mine isn't an option since I can't take the KJ down for however long it takes for them to see what's doable, so I'd like to obtain a broken one as cheaply as possible to forward on to them.

As for the second requirement, I don't want to get ahead of myself on all of this, but assuming that they can successfully build them it will help with pricing if we can buy more than just one at a time. The good news is that they will retain all dimensions, etc. necessary to fabricate future intercoolers, so this isn't necessarily a one-shot deal.

We're at a point where this is another proprietary item that will fail and ultimately become responsible for taking more and more otherwise-usable CRDs off the road. And while there are no guarantees at this exact time that we can have drop-in replacements made, there is at least an opportunity at hand to find out. If we don't, well, we already know how things end.

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 Post subject: Re: Gauging Interest: Intercooler Group Buy (with WTB)
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 Post subject: Re: Gauging Interest: Aftermarket CRD Intercooler Manufactur
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:22 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Gauging Interest: Aftermarket CRD Intercooler Manufactur
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:34 pm 
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My66dodge wrote:
I have 2 I can loan


If at all possible, buying a cracked one and sending it on to the manufacturer would be highly preferable. I can't guarantee that a loaner will make it back in one piece if at all.

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Suncoast TC
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 Post subject: Re: Gauging Interest: Aftermarket CRD Intercooler Manufactur
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:26 am 
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One is bad anyways, I have access to more though... it’s good to be in the industry


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 Post subject: Re: Gauging Interest: Aftermarket CRD Intercooler Manufactur
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:32 am 
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My66dodge wrote:
One is bad anyways, I have access to more though... it’s good to be in the industry


Would it be possible to buy one of the cracked ones?

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HDS Model 001 Thermostat (190°F)
Suncoast TC
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 Post subject: Re: Gauging Interest: Aftermarket CRD Intercooler Manufactur
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 Post subject: Re: Gauging Interest: Aftermarket CRD Intercooler Manufactur
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:28 pm 
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My66dodge wrote:
If you pay for shipping I will send it too you


Done. Check PMs for details, and thank you!

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IRO WJ Short Rear UCA/WWDiesel mount
Skid Row Skidplates
HDS Model 001 Thermostat (190°F)
Suncoast TC
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Samco / Sasquatch Intake Hoses
Carter in-tank pump
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 Post subject: Re: Gauging Interest: Aftermarket CRD Intercooler Manufactur
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Following - Do any of you have a picture of where the stock intercooler cracks as I'm currently chasing a high opacity issue which is causing me to fail my emissions test and want to rule this out as a possible cause? Also is there an easy way of identifying said crack?


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 Post subject: Re: Gauging Interest: Aftermarket CRD Intercooler Manufactur
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:20 pm 
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MtnClimber wrote:
Following - Do any of you have a picture of where the stock intercooler cracks as I'm currently chasing a high opacity issue which is causing me to fail my emissions test and want to rule this out as a possible cause? Also is there an easy way of identifying said crack?


Look for an oily deposit around the upper left-hand side (facing the vehicle head-on) of the intercooler.

You might also be able to see oil on the various supports and covers in that area:

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That's mine as of about a week or so ago. Going to pull it tomorrow and look into repair options.

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245/75R16 BFG TA KO2s
OME / Clevis 2.5" Lift
JBA Lifted A-Arms
IRO WJ Short Rear UCA/WWDiesel mount
Skid Row Skidplates
HDS Model 001 Thermostat (190°F)
Suncoast TC
Full Weeks Kit
Bosch 5V glow plugs
Hayden 2986 fan clutch / GM 11-blade fan
Samco / Sasquatch Intake Hoses
Carter in-tank pump
Provent 200
V6 Airbox


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 Post subject: Re: Gauging Interest: Aftermarket CRD Intercooler Manufactur
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:59 am 
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casm wrote:
Over the past few days, I've been researching alternatives to the OEM intercooler for the KJ CRD given that the OEM units are now discontinued. What has become apparent is that there are no particularly good alternatives out there: the main issue seems to be the thin core that Chrysler used. At 1" in thickness, it's far skinnier than anything else typically found in service, and thus not easy to find.

The good news: I may have located a company that can build new intercoolers which would be a drop-in replacement for the OEM units, with aluminium tanks being a possibility. Nothing is confirmed at this point, largely because there are two things that I need:

  • An undamaged (except for the usual crack) OEM intercooler. Anything that's been in a head-on collision or damaged once removed is unusable; it needs to be straight and complete, including the tanks.
  • An idea of how many people would want one.

With respect to the first requirement, I need to get a stock intercooler to them so that they can take measurements, which is why I can't use one that's been through an accident. Sending them mine isn't an option since I can't take the KJ down for however long it takes for them to see what's doable, so I'd like to obtain a broken one as cheaply as possible to forward on to them.

As for the second requirement, I don't want to get ahead of myself on all of this, but assuming that they can successfully build them it will help with pricing if we can buy more than just one at a time. The good news is that they will retain all dimensions, etc. necessary to fabricate future intercoolers, so this isn't necessarily a one-shot deal.

We're at a point where this is another proprietary item that will fail and ultimately become responsible for taking more and more otherwise-usable CRDs off the road. And while there are no guarantees at this exact time that we can have drop-in replacements made, there is at least an opportunity at hand to find out. If we don't, well, we already know how things end.


I'm interested in a replacement intercooler. Has anything come to fruition with this possibility?

Thanks,

Ryan

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 Post subject: Re: Gauging Interest: Aftermarket CRD Intercooler Manufactur
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