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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:32 am 
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It's been less that 1000 miles on the new transmission.
When the engine is at idle, she purrs. However, now when I put her in gear with my foot on the brake, she has quite a loud diesel clatter bite.
The clatter is more noticeable than with the old transmission. It's as if the Engine Control Management software thinks it's going to go up a steep grade.
The lug at 35 mph is gone but one at 15mph around the 1st, 2nd gear is starting to show up ever so slowly.
The TC is locking up at 50 mph now.
I used to be able to run at 65mph turning 1850rmp. Now at 65mph I'm turning a hair more than 2000rpm.
Even from a dead stop, Libby is having to turn more RPM's to get me moving to about 30 mph. She has to turn about 2500rpm's to get me across an intersection and that's not jack rabbiting it!

The biggest shocker is that initially my water separator light flickering on and off gave the indication that the TC and Transpump was on it's last legs.
Yesterday while on business enroute from Evansville to Keeneland in Lexington on Highway 64, the water separator light was flickering again.
When I arrived at Keenland, she behaved ok but upon departure of the parking lot at the end of the day she started to heavily transmission stutter in first gear. The way back to Indy, the water separator light did not flicker or turn on.
I'm going to check the trans fluid since OLDNAVY mentioned the tranny taking 7 quarts in a previous thread

The tranny and EGR have seem to be the Achilles heal to this vehicle.


After mine was at Westgate CJD in Plainfield for the original, oil return filter only, transmission filter TSB, they got the level right and they even mentioned that the TSB was wrong for fluid quantity. I still get a shudder after mild to heavy acceleration with a gradual let off at 52-53mph, but thats it. I'm only up to 14,330 miles now since it's basically been parked for over a month while I get the van mileage up to utilize it's warranty time/mileage limit better.

I keep watching this thread like a hawk for any updates you might provide. Thanks for checking in.

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From another thread that I posted this same info about proper trans fill:

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I think it is just a mistake in the text of the FSM, because of what it list for rebuild/initial fill amount of 14 qts of fluid. Now I am here to tell you that when you drop the pan you will not leave 10 qts of fluid in the TQ & cooling lines, and the manual says to add 4 qts when servicing. My guess is it may have been a typo and should have been 8 qts because the tranny is draining all the cooling lines, cooler, but not the pump. Then when you refill, it pumps it up into the cooling lines, filters and everywhere else, but when it is only filled with 3 or 4 qts at service and they go by the FSM and the cold full marks then send you on your way you have a tranny with fluid low enough to have the TC with little or no fluid to operate properly and pump that is running almost dry.

When it is filled like FSM says then you have all the same symptons the TSB was trying to correct because of inproper filter allowing draining of TC after prolonged sitting and a bad situation is made worse when this is done to the tranny resulting in total failure. But you try to tell the young engineer on the phone that the FSM is wrong he is going to disagree unless this problem is fully described and explained like I have here and then tech sends the vehicle out the door with a worse problem then it had when it came in the door.

I still say this is why as one of those that has had this TSB done and checked behind tech for propper fluid level, even on non related TSB related ocassion, is why we have had no further tranny problems and our tranny shifts as it should.

Let me restate that this really makes a very big difference in tranny operation and even when hot and the fluid is 1/8th inch below the upper low full hot hole, if you add a qt to bring into the middle of the two holes the tranny smooths out even more.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:17 am 
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DZL_LOU wrote:
The biggest shocker is that initially my water separator light flickering on and off gave the indication that the TC and Transpump was on it's last legs.
Yesterday while on business enroute from Evansville to Keeneland in Lexington on Highway 64, the water separator light was flickering again.

It there a quick/simple way to tell if the WIF sensor is failing? If you have good fuel, a clean filter, and it running OK I could see it being as simple as a sensor going bad.

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What computer generates the water in fuel light? Why I ask is on another thread it talks about what the F31 corrects. Someone on the thread determined both the Bosch ECM and Chrysler TCM want to be master on the same bus and DC "kludged" the programming to put one to sleep for after market scanner compatibility and a recent flash upset the delicate balance :oops: Could our tc/tranny/egr/egrflow control problems be a computer glich with the TCM and ECM walking over each other :?: Just a thought.

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It there a quick/simple way to tell if the WIF sensor is failing? If you have good fuel, a clean filter, and it running OK I could see it being as simple as a sensor going bad.


When I initially took it in, I was told by the tech that the WIF sensor has about a 5V drop across the device. He thought that if I had gone through heavy rain that perhaps some moisture had got into the connectors and caused it to short.
So he placed some silicone gel at the connecting ports.
The only way I know to test that during driving conditions is to get a VOM that has data collection and log the voltage across the WIF sensor when it drops below 5V.
This would isolate a bad sensor. The remaining issue to resolve would be why the computer thinks it has IRQ (Interrrupt Request) flag from the WIF device to turn the dash light on.
Any other suggestions on how to isolate a bad WIF sensor besides purchasing a new one?

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What computer generates the water in fuel light? Why I ask is on another thread it talks about what the F31 corrects. Someone on the thread determined both the Bosch ECM and Chrysler TCM want to be master on the same bus and DC "kludged" the programming to put one to sleep for after market scanner compatibility and a recent flash upset the delicate balance :oops: Could our tc/tranny/egr/egrflow control problems be a computer glich with the TCM and ECM walking over each other :?: Just a thought.

From what I've seen on other vehicles, a working conflict between computers is very much possible. I owned a coach where the TCM took over control of the ECM while in gear (in series between the driver and ECM). We had persistant hardware & connection problems and frequently would either overheat the TCM or loose the data connection leaving coach on shoulder of the road. The rocket scientist engineer at Eaton used an unsealed 32 pin printer cable (no joke) for a tranny harness. One would think that coming out of an engineering center in Michigan (IIRC they invented road salt) they would have thought of this as an issue. I have even seen high resistance/tight wire ties and induced voltage throwing this system into confusion.

On the WIF sensor, should work like the rest of the engine sensors, sending a signal to a computer (likely to the ECM). It's a matter of what action the computer is told to take with the signal information as set-up by the programmer. I doubt they are using the WIF signal for anything more than turning on the WIF dash-light in this case. In Detroit Diesel software, it is possible to set the computer to go into shut-down or power-down on a signal like this by simply throwing a "switch" in the cotrol software.

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Joe Romas wrote:
What computer generates the water in fuel light? Why I ask is on another thread it talks about what the F31 corrects. Someone on the thread determined both the Bosch ECM and Chrysler TCM want to be master on the same bus and DC "kludged" the programming to put one to sleep for after market scanner compatibility and a recent flash upset the delicate balance :oops: Could our tc/tranny/egr/egrflow control problems be a computer glich with the TCM and ECM walking over each other :?: Just a thought.


That nasty thought has been looming in the back of my mind.
If my new transmission begins to fail as the old one did, then faulty software design is a prime suspect.
It's one thing for our beloved "component swappers" (techs) to change out a mechanical device that is broke or failing.
It's a completely different story when programming logic is involved.

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DZL_LOU wrote:
Joe Romas wrote:
What computer generates the water in fuel light? Why I ask is on another thread it talks about what the F31 corrects. Someone on the thread determined both the Bosch ECM and Chrysler TCM want to be master on the same bus and DC "kludged" the programming to put one to sleep for after market scanner compatibility and a recent flash upset the delicate balance :oops: Could our tc/tranny/egr/egrflow control problems be a computer glich with the TCM and ECM walking over each other :?: Just a thought.


That nasty thought has been looming in the back of my mind.
If my new transmission begins to fail as the old one did, then faulty software design is a prime suspect.
It's one thing for our beloved "component swappers" (techs) to change out a mechanical device that is broke or failing.
It's a completely different story when programming logic is involved.


move it to the front, just got off the phone with my dealers service manager, he called to discuss the F31 recall that they couldn't/didn't do. According to him STAR has advised him the even a new TCM may not take the FLASH, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE SOFTWARE ISSUES THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO RESOLVE AND UNTIL THEY DO THEY AREN'T THROWING ANY MORE EXPENSIVE TCM'S AT THE PROBLEM.

My feeling, this is a recall and the vehicles are in violation of federal law, they have to resolve. This "experiment" of the CRD in the US market is going to cost DC millions.

In the meantime we the CRD owners need to document everything so we don't get stuck with large bills after the warranty period(i feel bad for the 06 owners).

Anybody have a clue what would happen if DC can't get our CRD's to comply with the emissions law???


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cerich wrote:
DZL_LOU wrote:
Joe Romas wrote:
What computer generates the water in fuel light? Why I ask is on another thread it talks about what the F31 corrects. Someone on the thread determined both the Bosch ECM and Chrysler TCM want to be master on the same bus and DC "kludged" the programming to put one to sleep for after market scanner compatibility and a recent flash upset the delicate balance :oops: Could our tc/tranny/egr/egrflow control problems be a computer glich with the TCM and ECM walking over each other :?: Just a thought.


That nasty thought has been looming in the back of my mind.
If my new transmission begins to fail as the old one did, then faulty software design is a prime suspect.
It's one thing for our beloved "component swappers" (techs) to change out a mechanical device that is broke or failing.
It's a completely different story when programming logic is involved.


move it to the front, just got off the phone with my dealers service manager, he called to discuss the F31 recall that they couldn't/didn't do. According to him STAR has advised him the even a new TCM may not take the FLASH, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE SOFTWARE ISSUES THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO RESOLVE AND UNTIL THEY DO THEY AREN'T THROWING ANY MORE EXPENSIVE TCM'S AT THE PROBLEM.

My feeling, this is a recall and the vehicles are in violation of federal law, they have to resolve. This "experiment" of the CRD in the US market is going to cost DC millions.

In the meantime we the CRD owners need to document everything so we don't get stuck with large bills after the warranty period(i feel bad for the 06 owners).

Anybody have a clue what would happen if DC can't get our CRD's to comply with the emissions law???


They must have multiple versions of the Engine Control Module(ECM) and Transmission Control Module(ECM) because my CRD, built June 20, 2005, has taken two complete reflashes to both with no problems.

For mine it was first, 18-009-06.
Then, second one, 18-023-06.

All I know is mine took both reflashes with no problems.


This kind of makes sense in that 18-009-06 was for the 2005 models and 18-008-06 was for the 2006 models - it took two different TSBs due to model years to get the same programming modifications done.

Also, in 18-023-06, it has two different procedures to use depending on 2005 or 2006 model years. Could it be the 2006 model CRDs are having more reflash problems than the 2005s???

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I need a vacation from this Jeep, it's starting to give me the heebie-jeebies trying to guess a solution for everything. :roll:

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My 05 had to have the tcm replaced because it wouldn't hold 8-023 I have yet to have the recall done, and I haven't been given my recall notice.

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alljeep wrote:
cerich wrote:
DZL_LOU wrote:
Joe Romas wrote:
What computer generates the water in fuel light? Why I ask is on another thread it talks about what the F31 corrects. Someone on the thread determined both the Bosch ECM and Chrysler TCM want to be master on the same bus and DC "kludged" the programming to put one to sleep for after market scanner compatibility and a recent flash upset the delicate balance :oops: Could our tc/tranny/egr/egrflow control problems be a computer glich with the TCM and ECM walking over each other :?: Just a thought.


That nasty thought has been looming in the back of my mind.
If my new transmission begins to fail as the old one did, then faulty software design is a prime suspect.
It's one thing for our beloved "component swappers" (techs) to change out a mechanical device that is broke or failing.
It's a completely different story when programming logic is involved.


move it to the front, just got off the phone with my dealers service manager, he called to discuss the F31 recall that they couldn't/didn't do. According to him STAR has advised him the even a new TCM may not take the FLASH, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE SOFTWARE ISSUES THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO RESOLVE AND UNTIL THEY DO THEY AREN'T THROWING ANY MORE EXPENSIVE TCM'S AT THE PROBLEM.

My feeling, this is a recall and the vehicles are in violation of federal law, they have to resolve. This "experiment" of the CRD in the US market is going to cost DC millions.

In the meantime we the CRD owners need to document everything so we don't get stuck with large bills after the warranty period(i feel bad for the 06 owners).

Anybody have a clue what would happen if DC can't get our CRD's to comply with the emissions law???


They must have multiple versions of the Engine Control Module(ECM) and Transmission Control Module(ECM) because my CRD, built June 20, 2005, has taken two complete reflashes to both with no problems.

For mine it was first, 18-009-06.
Then, second one, 18-023-06.

All I know is mine took both reflashes with no problems.


This kind of makes sense in that 18-009-06 was for the 2005 models and 18-008-06 was for the 2006 models - it took two different TSBs due to model years to get the same programming modifications done.

Also, in 18-023-06, it has two different procedures to use depending on 2005 or 2006 model years. Could it be the 2006 model CRDs are having more reflash problems than the 2005s???


My June 2005 CRD took the 18-009-06 flah no problem what it won't take is the F31 recall flash. I haven't had any parts replaced(not even EGR) in 24k miles. I do get the shudder and last week it did a few stalls that were not fuel (what you described when yours went south)


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alljeep wrote:
They must have multiple versions of the Engine Control Module(ECM) and Transmission Control Module(ECM) because my CRD, built June 20, 2005, has taken two complete reflashes to both with no problems.

For mine it was first, 18-009-06.
Then, second one, 18-023-06.

All I know is mine took both reflashes with no problems.


This kind of makes sense in that 18-009-06 was for the 2005 models and 18-008-06 was for the 2006 models - it took two different TSBs due to model years to get the same programming modifications done.

Also, in 18-023-06, it has two different procedures to use depending on 2005 or 2006 model years. Could it be the 2006 model CRDs are having more reflash problems than the 2005s???
I am thinking the same thing, I have a July '05 build date and only problem we have had is the initial bad filter that was replaced and then the dealership went by FSM and only put in about 4 quarts, and then it did shift bad and hard. I took it back when after I checked the tranny and it was not even out of the cold full spot after 30 mile drive, and ended up putting another 4 or 5 quarts in it to fill the tranny. I posted this anomaly at the time and how much was installed to bring the tranny to full mark when hot and it effects. I don't think anyone paid any attention, or commented about the problem.

Ours has had the TSB & recall's done as has alljeep without any problem either. Our CRD runs excellent, is capable of smoking the tires for about 30 feet and gets 32/34 mpg when driven at 65/70 mph and in her daily driving runs around 21/22 mpg in town.

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[quote="RFCRDFrom what I've seen on other vehicles, a working conflict between computers is very much possible. I owned a coach where the TCM took over control of the ECM while in gear (in series between the driver and ECM). [/quote]

Have you ever felt the controler on the right fender well? Mine feels warmer (hot) then I would like. I'll try to measure it with my non contact infrared thermometer this weekend. I can see this and a incorrect fluid level that oldnavy has identified causing all inds of prolems :shock:

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Joe Romas wrote:
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From what I've seen on other vehicles, a working conflict between computers is very much possible. I owned a coach where the TCM took over control of the ECM while in gear (in series between the driver and ECM).


Have you ever felt the controler on the right fender well? Mine feels warmer (hot) then I would like. I'll try to measure it with my non contact infrared thermometer this weekend. I can see this and a incorrect fluid level that oldnavy has identified causing all inds of prolems :shock:

Never took the time to feel it for heat but not unusual for a TCM/ECM to get warm. I know that Detroit Diesel uses a heat sink plate which is cooled by circulating fuel to control the ECM temps. Can see situations where underhood heat could cause TCM/ECM issues. If you have a heat probe, give it a try under various conditions.

The TCM failure problems I had on the buses were the result of having the TCM crammed into a junction box mounted inside of a luggage bay (box inside of a box) where it didn't get any ventelation. All it took was an extended drive on a good 90+ degree day and it was toast. I ended up piping cabin A/C from a nearby duct through the J-box to get reliability.

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I have an early '06 and I had the reprogram TSB done and also the filter TSB. I didn't really have serious problems but wanted to be proactive. Although I threw some codes a week ago they did not affect driveability and although I am not hitting the high mileage numbers Oldnavy is they are high enough for now. The jeep is running fine except for the cr*ppy tires that I am replacing.

My plan is to wait to do this recall along with the ball joints when they finally get around to it. Perhaps by that time they will know what they are doing........right now it looks like they got caught by the feds and are throwing a bone to them even though a real fix may not have been built yet.

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oldnavy wrote:
From another thread that I posted this same info about proper trans fill:

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I think it is just a mistake in the text of the FSM, because of what it list for rebuild/initial fill amount of 14 qts of fluid. Now I am here to tell you that when you drop the pan you will not leave 10 qts of fluid in the TQ & cooling lines, and the manual says to add 4 qts when servicing. My guess is it may have been a typo and should have been 8 qts because the tranny is draining all the cooling lines, cooler, but not the pump. Then when you refill, it pumps it up into the cooling lines, filters and everywhere else, but when it is only filled with 3 or 4 qts at service and they go by the FSM and the cold full marks then send you on your way you have a tranny with fluid low enough to have the TC with little or no fluid to operate properly and pump that is running almost dry.

When it is filled like FSM says then you have all the same symptons the TSB was trying to correct because of inproper filter allowing draining of TC after prolonged sitting and a bad situation is made worse when this is done to the tranny resulting in total failure. But you try to tell the young engineer on the phone that the FSM is wrong he is going to disagree unless this problem is fully described and explained like I have here and then tech sends the vehicle out the door with a worse problem then it had when it came in the door.

I still say this is why as one of those that has had this TSB done and checked behind tech for propper fluid level, even on non related TSB related ocassion, is why we have had no further tranny problems and our tranny shifts as it should.

Let me restate that this really makes a very big difference in tranny operation and even when hot and the fluid is 1/8th inch below the upper low full hot hole, if you add a qt to bring into the middle of the two holes the tranny smooths out even more.


Checked trans fluid based on OLDNAVY suggestion. Libby was 1/8th inch below first HOT hole mark. Added 1 Qt of ATF+4 fluid and am monitoring shift performance.

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Recently when I had the tranny serviced on the MB by the indy tranny shop I use, I talked with the owner about the problems that were being experienced with the 545RFE not just in the CRD, but in other DC vehicles as well.

I've been going to this guy for almost 6 years now. He knows auto trannys forwards, backwards, and sideways. Never had any problems with his work, and all the trannys he's serviced/rebuilt for me have operated flawlessly afterwards. And done for a quite reasonable price I might add.

At one time he worked as a tech for a local CJD dealership, but left and started his own shop after he became disgusted with their business and vehicle maintenance practices (yep, we're talking Lake Norman again).

He described how when they got a shipment of new vehicles in, nearly all of the techs would simply blow off checking the fluid levels, especially the tranny, in an effort to save time (his own description was that they were too f#####g lazy) and simply assume someone at the factory had already done it. He also added that on the vehciles he checked, nearly every one of them required top-off of the tranny fluid.

He had a very high opinion of the 545RFE, that when properly programmed and with the proper fluid levels, it was very reliable and well built.

Here's tha part you've been waiting for - he stated that practically every one of the problems/symptoms we've seen could be attributed to improper tranny fluid level in one way or another.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:00 pm 
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retmil46 wrote:
He had a very high opinion of the 545RFE, that when properly programmed and with the proper fluid levels, it was very reliable and well built.

Here's tha part you've been waiting for - he stated that practically every one of the problems/symptoms we've seen could be attributed to improper tranny fluid level in one way or another.
I was at a friend house today who is a tech at local CJDS dealer and he had the same to say about the 545 tranny. He said the tranny is ideal when at mid point between the two hot holes, and just a qt low causes had shifting and if 3 qts low it will do just like everyone here says there tranny does that are having problems. He also stated that he has seen too many to count that came from factory 2 to 3 quarts low on fluid. He also said that the FSM was wrong with the 4.7L service fill, and should be about 7.5 quarts to fill 545 RLE after changing the filters.

I finally got my PML differential cover installed today with the use of his lift, he liked it so well he is calling them later this week for the cover and tranny pan for his Ram 1500 Hemi PU truck.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:11 am 
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I checked mine yesterday when cold (after sitting all night) and the level was just below the last hole above the hot fill. So apparently mine has enough fluid in it.

It feel like it shift okay except for when it goes into the first OD at around 53 mph. It goes in and makes this low pitched humm...does anyone else have this?

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