Preliminary Samco hose want-in-on-groupbuy headcountUPDATE#3

gmctd · **Posted:** Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:42 pm

Well........much as I would dislike putting Ford Blue on anything of mine, I guess I'm\we're in - why couldn't they have formed some black......or red......orange.......pink.......anything but Ford Blue! Aaaaccckkkk!

Guess I just won't be raisin' that hood much in public, anymore...............

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:47 pm

gmctd wrote:

Well........much as I would dislike putting Ford Blue on anything of mine, I guess I'm\we're in - why couldn't they have formed some black......or red......orange.......pink.......anything but Ford Blue! Aaaaccckkkk!

Guess I just won't be raisin' that hood much in public, anymore...............

Actually, nearly every samco product is availible in those colors when you purchase them, I doubt you will be stuck with blue.

kelticknight · **Posted:** Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:44 pm

Sir Sam wrote:

kelticknight wrote:

tonycrd wrote:

kelticknight wrote:

soon i get a set,will post to let everyone know

Well there goes my idea, just can't risk it right after the holidays and all.

Anyway thanks for the help, from all us 'oldies'.

just was at jeep dealers parts department and 2002 2.5 crd liberty up 2.8 turbo hoses are the same in lenght and shape,only ones that are different are 2007 models
i had both hose kits on counter for 2.5 and 2.8 and we both measured them and checked the shape, all 2007 models are slightly different
so if you want to be safe,any crd model in 2.5 and 2.8 from 2002 to 2005 are made by same and same in all ways

hope this helps
cant do no more for you guys

by 2007, do you mean 2007 KJ, or 2007 KK?

jeep parts department guy was saying kj or as called here cherokee

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:51 pm

kelticknight wrote:

Sir Sam wrote:

kelticknight wrote:

tonycrd wrote:

kelticknight wrote:

soon i get a set,will post to let everyone know

Well there goes my idea, just can't risk it right after the holidays and all.

Anyway thanks for the help, from all us 'oldies'.

just was at jeep dealers parts department and 2002 2.5 crd liberty up 2.8 turbo hoses are the same in lenght and shape,only ones that are different are 2007 models
i had both hose kits on counter for 2.5 and 2.8 and we both measured them and checked the shape, all 2007 models are slightly different
so if you want to be safe,any crd model in 2.5 and 2.8 from 2002 to 2005 are made by same and same in all ways

hope this helps
cant do no more for you guys

by 2007, do you mean 2007 KJ, or 2007 KK?

jeep parts department guy was saying kj or as called here cherokee

ok just making sure, there were plenty of KKs built in 2007, and if you dont follow the model year nomenclature they could have been mistaken for KKs when referring to 2007's.

jinstall · **Posted:** Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:33 pm

I checked last week and there are no KK for sale in the German market. They are still all KJ. I do have my photos from IAA of the KK CRD.

tonycrd · **Posted:** Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:09 am

kelticknight : Many thanks for making sure the 2.5 and 2.8 are the same! The later models KJ ('07) had a volumetric turbo, maybe the difference in hoses lies there. We cannot get a KK in Spain untill late this summer......or probably whenever they run out of KJ stock...

Jim Friese · **Posted:** Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:23 pm

Sir Sam,

I will buy just let me know when

Jim

jinstall · **Posted:** Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:57 pm

Keep bugging Samco Sport they are starting to feel the heat. They also know that the $299.99 MSRP is something they are going to have to deal with as well. There is a dealer in the US, IF IF IF, you really stay with the GB, will probably take the GB offer.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:15 pm

jinstall wrote:

Keep bugging Samco Sport they are starting to feel the heat. They also know that the $299.99 MSRP is something they are going to have to deal with as well. There is a dealer in the US, IF IF IF, you really stay with the GB, will probably take the GB offer.

Uh, could you rephrase that last line, I didn't quite decipher it....

05crd · **Joined:** Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:54 pm **Posts:** 47

I'm guessing he's saying there is a United States dealer who will facilitate a group buy on them.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:05 pm

05crd wrote:

I'm guessing he's saying there is a United States dealer who will facilitate a group buy on them.

I would too, but we have already talked about that and I have said before that's what we would do, so it seems a little odd he would repeat that.

I think he might mean is that once we have our groupbuy price we may be able to get that vendor to regularly retail them to us at the groupbuy price, even after the groupbuy, which would be nice.

jinstall · **Posted:** Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:36 am

There are 3 authorized Samco Sport dealers in the US. One of those 3 has said they would handle a GB directly from Samco Sport when they can get a price and date to have them in-hand. Samco Sport is more likely to ship 35 to 50 sets of hoses to a authorized dealer as they can wash their hands of the whole deal after shipment. Unfortunately Samco Sport knows they have great products and run their business the same. It is a buyer/seller market and right now we are at Samco Sports mercy. The Samco Sport dealer I have here shows no interest in getting these items for me. It is hard enough getting parts that they have "in stock". There are several things that Samco Sport has done that is not normal for a professional business to do. These things have caused me to be very cautious of Samco Sport. I have prototyped many things in the past 12 years here in Germany so I speak from good and bad history.

wolcott · **Joined:** Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:16 pm **Posts:** 108

If these hoses become available, I'm definitely interested in them. Any way I can keep the Libby trouble free so it doesn't let me down at an unplanned future date is worth it. My experience with silicone hoses has been excellent, although they are expensive.

JHCRASH · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:10 am

Sir sam I want to change my vote to absolutely yes

Zonie · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:29 am

I'm definitely in @ $200.

hawk521 · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:50 am

Let's get this hose on the road!

If we can get the discount lined up, I'm in. Sure would like to swap out the oem hoses before they pop on me.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:45 pm

Zonie wrote:

I'm definitely in @ $200.

RRP will be $300.

wolcott · **Joined:** Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:16 pm **Posts:** 108

While $200 would be better than $300, I would pay the $300 for a set of new hoses. A blown hose in the middle of nowhere can cost you a lot more than that, and these hoses would not be easy to jury rig to get home.

UFO · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:04 pm

wolcott wrote:

While $200 would be better than $300, I would pay the $300 for a set of new hoses. A blown hose in the middle of nowhere can cost you a lot more than that, and these hoses would not be easy to jury rig to get home.

I'm carrying a radiator hose emergency repair kit in the CRD for such an event.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:27 pm

UFO wrote:

wolcott wrote:

While $200 would be better than $300, I would pay the $300 for a set of new hoses. A blown hose in the middle of nowhere can cost you a lot more than that, and these hoses would not be easy to jury rig to get home.

I'm carrying a radiator hose emergency repair kit in the CRD for such an event.

LOL thats actually a really good idea given how pron these things can be to failure.

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