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Mine ran great with no problems for the first 22,000 miles. Now at 37,000 miles I have had 2 torque converters, U Joint, ball joints, turbo, air in the fuel system, speaker and now it is going in to have the rear main replaced. But I am still on the original EGR.

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Mine ran great with no problems for the first 22,000 miles. Now at 37,000 miles I have had 2 torque converters, U Joint, ball joints, turbo, air in the fuel system, speaker and now it is going in to have the rear main replaced. But I am still on the original EGR.



Well that's one good thing. Maybe you got a 2006 EGR in the first place. :D As far as the TC, I understand 2006's after Nov. '05 build date got a better one. Depends on who you ask. At least you have the better powertrain warranty.


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I swear I have not gone 2 weeks without some kind of B.S. with the CRD. And so far nothing major just little things that drive me nuts.

The shudder is way less and less severe after the F37 more like once a week or so instead of once or twice a day, CEL’s I get at least 1 every 4 weeks. Always go away before they scan it, and they usually replace something like the air filter or some other little item, then Tuesday on the way back from the DR. it kept stalling I took it straight to the dealer, and they gave me a loaner and latter told me they needed to replace the PCM, also I told them I felt that it had a glow plug going bad (this is not my first diesel). Not sure what else they found haven’t got it back yet.

So to top it off I have Pneumonia YIPPIE !

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I swear I have not gone 2 weeks without some kind of B.S. with the CRD. And so far nothing major just little things that drive me nuts.

The shudder is way less and less severe after the F37 more like once a week or so instead of once or twice a day, CEL’s I get at least 1 every 4 weeks. Always go away before they scan it, and they usually replace something like the air filter or some other little item, then Tuesday on the way back from the DR. it kept stalling I took it straight to the dealer, and they gave me a loaner and latter told me they needed to replace the PCM, also I told them I felt that it had a glow plug going bad (this is not my first diesel). Not sure what else they found haven’t got it back yet.

So to top it off I have Pneumonia YIPPIE !



Sorry you are sick. Why do you think a glow plug is going bad? Hard to start? They don't work after 10-20 seconds anyway.

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BVCRD you saying ditto or did you just forget to write something in?

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BVCRD you saying ditto or did you just forget to write something in?



Sorry. My responce came up in your quote.


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Sorry missed that, And thanks starting to feel better and not as tired.

Just the way it starts when it’s cold and not plugged in. Feels like its running 2 or 3 cylinders for the first 4 or 5 minuets. It runs really rough worse then it was when it first started getting cold. The old Ford used to do that when the glow plugs were starting to go bad.

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Sorry missed that, And thanks starting to feel better and not as tired.

Just the way it starts when it’s cold and not plugged in. Feels like its running 2 or 3 cylinders for the first 4 or 5 minuets. It runs really rough worse then it was when it first started getting cold. The old Ford used to do that when the glow plugs were starting to go bad.



That sound like dirty injectors or icy fuel filter to me. The glow plugs not working would make it start slow and run rough for a few seconds, but not that long. As soon as the fuel got good and going, it should smooth out. You have the same paint as we got.


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Can't wait to see what they come up with at the shop. They just replaced the Fuel filter 2 weeks ago when I complained about it starting hard and running like crap. And there’s nothing I hate more than having them tell me “well it’s not putting out any codes, there’s nothing we can do”.

It’s too bad that most so called mechanics at the dealers are just part replacement technician’s not real mechanics. Not saying they are all like that, I’m sure there are a few good mechanics out there.

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My diesel KJ has NEVER let me down in 5 years! It's the electronics for your emmission laws that cause your problems.

I think the fact mine is also a 5 speed manual helps. Those transmissions are near bullet proof.

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My diesel KJ has NEVER let me down in 5 years! It's the electronics for your emmission laws that cause your problems.

I think the fact mine is also a 5 speed manual helps. Those transmissions are near bullet proof.

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20K miles and not a single problem. It runs perfect. We just had the TC recall because it said it was mandatory.


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I only have about 8,200 miles on it, but so far no "diesel" problems. The only real problem I have had is when it was about a month old the passenger side front window mysteriously shattered while parked in my garage. After I talked to three different people at the dealership ("Where it was parked there is no way someone or something could have hit the window, besides it looks like it broke from the inside and most of the pieces landed outside the Jeep") they replaced the window under warranty.

I have had three recalls done; the BCM reprogram, the aftermarket scan tool reprogram, and the ball joint recall. The BCM reprogram was done when they fixed the window, and the other two were done awhen they changed the oil at 6,000 miles. I apparently do not need the F37 transmission recall.

I installed a filterminder, and based on what it has shown it appears to me that a wet air filter does not cause any significant airflow restriction.

I let the dealer change the oil, and they put Mobil 1 0W40 in it.

There is light oil film in the intake hose, but when I removed and checked the IAT/Boost senser I found it to be dirty, but not clogged, and the soot on it was dry powder with no hint of oily sludge.

I try to use only ULSD, and I add Power Service at every fill up.

In other words, I am happy so far. Hope I'm not jinxing myself.

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54,000 miles in 15 months and no problems on a mid to late 2005 CRD. I love it.


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54,000 miles in 15 months and no problems on a mid to late 2005 CRD. I love it.




You MAY have the record. Did your CRD come with a Mopar Porta Potti because it sounds like you live in the thing. :D

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I purchased mine in January of 06(brand new 06 Sport CRD, currently around 15,000 miles) and I have had no issues aside from the ball joint recall. No stutter, no hard starts, no failures, nothing. It has started easily every morning, and run my 14 mile commute to work(which sadly takes nearly 45 mins in Seattle). I really couldn't be happier, its a hell of an upgrade to my 1996 Chevy S-10 4.3L, which was always problematic with an issue every month it seemed. Still need to sell that thing, but won't sell it to someone who isn't mechanically inclined as I would feel bad if I did.

Before I purchased the Liberty, I checked with my girlfriend's father, who is an engineer with Chrysler's Consumer Quality division. He looked up the Liberty and found that in general the Liberty is one of the most reliable cars they sell, and that the CRD was on average more reliable than the typical Liberty, although with less than a years worth of sales and a low volume he pointed out that it was too soon to tell how well that stat would hold up over time. He reccomended it wholeheartedly, and helped me get it for considerably below normal prices(salesman was not thrilled when we put him on the phone with her father and he gave him a bunch of codes to put in the computer).

In general, while there certainly are some issues with the Liberty as there are with any limited run vehicle without a long history to work out the kinks, in general I think we will come out ahead as the pure longevity of a diesel comes into play. These things will still likely be on the road in twenty years, common failures well known to the exclusive community that owns them(in the US) with cheap fixes shared on forums like this. One only has to look at the life that 80's Mercedes diesel's have to see our future(they weren't perfect either, a friend of mine is part of that 'club' and its interesting what they have done to keep those things running).

This is the first Jeep forum I found with a serious dedicated community for the CRD. Most of the rest lump it in with all KJ's, or have just a handful of posts. For that reason, I think that people who have problems are likely to end up here first, and the apparantly helpful nature of the members keeps them coming back(I know its impressed me just as a lurker for the past few months). But we have to be careful, our own problems, and the fact that people with a problem are most likely to appear here first may tend to color our view of the vehicle. The reality is that as stated earlier, the vast majority of these things are running perfectly without a problem for 90+% of the people who purchased them.

When I first started reading here I was afraid I purchased a lemon, but as mine has aged and got the miles tacked on, and no problems have appeared, and as the polls even on forums like this show, the problems really are in the minority, and given time even they will likely be worked out. I bought the Liberty CRD as a long term investment, I'm not the type who likes disposable cars. I do believe that it will live up to that.

Of course feel free to mock me in a year should my KJ not live up to my expectations. ;)

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I purchased mine in January of 06(brand new 06 Sport CRD, currently around 15,000 miles) and I have had no issues aside from the ball joint recall. No stutter, no hard starts, no failures, nothing. It has started easily every morning, and run my 14 mile commute to work(which sadly takes nearly 45 mins in Seattle). I really couldn't be happier, its a hell of an upgrade to my 1996 Chevy S-10 4.3L, which was always problematic with an issue every month it seemed. Still need to sell that thing, but won't sell it to someone who isn't mechanically inclined as I would feel bad if I did.

Before I purchased the Liberty, I checked with my girlfriend's father, who is an engineer with Chrysler's Consumer Quality division. He looked up the Liberty and found that in general the Liberty is one of the most reliable cars they sell, and that the CRD was on average more reliable than the typical Liberty, although with less than a years worth of sales and a low volume he pointed out that it was too soon to tell how well that stat would hold up over time. He reccomended it wholeheartedly, and helped me get it for considerably below normal prices(salesman was not thrilled when we put him on the phone with her father and he gave him a bunch of codes to put in the computer).

In general, while there certainly are some issues with the Liberty as there are with any limited run vehicle without a long history to work out the kinks, in general I think we will come out ahead as the pure longevity of a diesel comes into play. These things will still likely be on the road in twenty years, common failures well known to the exclusive community that owns them(in the US) with cheap fixes shared on forums like this. One only has to look at the life that 80's Mercedes diesel's have to see our future(they weren't perfect either, a friend of mine is part of that 'club' and its interesting what they have done to keep those things running).

This is the first Jeep forum I found with a serious dedicated community for the CRD. Most of the rest lump it in with all KJ's, or have just a handful of posts. For that reason, I think that people who have problems are likely to end up here first, and the apparantly helpful nature of the members keeps them coming back(I know its impressed me just as a lurker for the past few months). But we have to be careful, our own problems, and the fact that people with a problem are most likely to appear here first may tend to color our view of the vehicle. The reality is that as stated earlier, the vast majority of these things are running perfectly without a problem for 90+% of the people who purchased them.

When I first started reading here I was afraid I purchased a lemon, but as mine has aged and got the miles tacked on, and no problems have appeared, and as the polls even on forums like this show, the problems really are in the minority, and given time even they will likely be worked out. I bought the Liberty CRD as a long term investment, I'm not the type who likes disposable cars. I do believe that it will live up to that.

Of course feel free to mock me in a year should my KJ not live up to my expectations. ;)





You won't hear it from me. I'm with you. darn good ride! :D OK guys, ask him where he got the 90% from????? Beware, trolls lurk here.

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I turn the key, wait for the glowplug light, and it starts. What is the problem with some people and their constant worrying about the CRD?
My suggestion: Go somewhere and either
1. get issued a life
2. get a panties removal
3. sell the dam thing and stop whining


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vtdog so what your saying is that a CEL glowing in front of you doesn’t bother you, or If it stalled at every intersection, or jumped to limp mode every now and again wouldn’t bother you?

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