Reflex wrote:
This statement would be true if I'd said 50,000 miles, or a 100,000 miles. Whats your point, its a two year old design, its not like anyone here has any significant amount of wear on thiers yet. Your point stands for any vehicle of 2005 or newer, NONE of them are proven models yet from any automaker.
No quite true. DCX has been selling this CRD design/variant overseas since 2002. The only major difference - that I'm aware of - between the pre 2005 CRD's sold overseas and those introduced into the U.S. ('05 & '06) is that the engine displacement was increased from 2.5L to 2.8L. By the time the CRD hit the market in the U.S., the design had already been in the field for 3 years. That's a long time in the auto industry. By the time the CRD hit the U.S. most of the bugs should have been worked out - at least one would think.
It appears that Chrysler's approach to solving problems isn't really to solve the problem, but to minimize their financial liability. The multiple LBJ recalls and the solution to the TC problems come to mind as the most recent examples concerning the Liberty. Things like this only further exacerbates problems with DCX's already tarnished reputation.
Reflex wrote:
Once again, the same could be said the other way around. If your implying the Liberty CRD is shoddy, I can just as easily ask "shoddy compared to what?" If your just here to tell people to go buy a Toyota, well, you got the wrong forum for that bud.
I don't recall recommending Toyota, or anybody else for that matter. However, I will say this - the Japanese auto makers are definitely cleaning the clocks of the American manufacturers in the reputation department. In the auto biz - today - reputation is almost everything...
I was simply making a point that it's folly to be attesting to the reliability of a certain manufacturers vehicle as compared to other vehicles made by the same manufacturer when overall the company has a reputation for making unreliable vehicles.
Reflex wrote:
Take the ax and grind it where someone cares. Once again, the overwhelming amount of people who have no problem with this vehicle is good enough to reccomend it to someone who finds its charactoristics appealing. Its one thing to simply make a list of potential trouble spots, thats good research, its something else to scare people away from it because you personally got a bad one out of the 10,500 that were manufactured. You are simply not a representative sample.
No ax grinding going on here. I will admit that I've never been a big fan of Chrysler. However, I've always liked Jeeps. I don't think it's disputable that Chrysler has a reputation problem. I also don't think it's disputable that DCX's reputation problems are well earned. DCX is now #4 and heading south. There are multiple reasons for that. Hell even Daimler wants to get rid of them. Saying any vehicle - these days - is one of DCX's most reliable doesn't really say much.
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