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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:57 am 
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The "Plate Fix" for the EGR hasn't proven itself. On another forum it threw a CEL. The SEGR so far is the only "Fix".


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Of course - can't defeat that congressionally mandated intake leak without affecting MAF output, effecting MAF or EGR DTC's, or both.

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I can't think of the guys handle right now but there is a long time member here who plated off his EGR and lived with the resultant codes 2 or 3 years ago. n3qik might be the guy. He doesn't post much. Anybody with questions about the plate approach might PM him for first hand info.

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Still have not reconnected SGII, still no ABS\VSS errors, no erratic behavior - it's a shame we cannot get some resolution on this - SGII is a practical monitor and useful tool, even moreso with added X-guage potential

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Cummins LP module, Fleetguard filter, Filterminder
2.5" Daystar f, OME r; Ranchos; K80767's, Al's lifted uppers
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No problems with long term hookups using Ethos(Snap On) or Genesis systems either,not as good as the DRBIII but dang near close,if available it reads/displays all live data,graghs O2 sensor/other sensors long term memory,and also freeze frame with print options.


Snap-On's software doesn't support the CRD and never will. I called them.

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 Post subject: Yeah, tossed my SGII too....shame.
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Yeah, sold my SGII to a friend who was dieing for one.
I do regret we couldn't make it work. Was indeed a nice tool.
I've now tried every unit at Harbor Freight as well, just for the fun of it.
They didn't think it was fun having me return and exchange 3 units in 15 minutes.
But hey.
Most don't comm, or trip the ABS and ESS lights when it scans the CAN bus,
or just won't clear the CEL. One unit, the larger older Cen Tek - which is actually
an Autel GS400, works, but trips the ABS ESS, but when you clear the CEL,
it stays cleared for the next start up. But it takes forever to scan and establish comm.
It has a nice memory feature and some other things too, but nowhere near an SGII in
dashboard features. Just a scanner. But, their product support guys are
actually interested in my problem with it and are trying to work a fix.
It is a software upgradeable unit with a serial port. We'll see.

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One of our members lives right down the street from them - be nice if he could pop over there and explain the situation via-a-vis the Teves ABS module, let them look at the KJ CRD buss streams while they were at it

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2.5" Daystar f, OME r; Ranchos; K80767's, Al's lifted uppers
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From the Scangauge site:

WORKS ON ALL EXCEPT: Jeep Liberty with the diesel engine does not report fuel use or trip functions and some of the gauges.
Unless the recall ECU software update has been completed.



http://www.scangauge.com/support/CompatibleVehicles.shtml

ECU software update??

Site also says that the SGII doesn't work on the Lotus Elise. Phwoar - am i glad i didn't buy that Lotus!... LOL[/img]


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Turbo Tim wrote:
The "Plate Fix" for the EGR hasn't proven itself. On another forum it threw a CEL. The SEGR so far is the only "Fix".


Wasn't it you who recommended that I put a plate on mine????

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loric wrote:
From the Scangauge site:

WORKS ON ALL EXCEPT: Jeep Liberty with the diesel engine does not report fuel use or trip functions and some of the gauges.
Unless the recall ECU software update has been completed.



http://www.scangauge.com/support/CompatibleVehicles.shtml

ECU software update??

Site also says that the SGII doesn't work on the Lotus Elise. Phwoar - am i glad i didn't buy that Lotus!... LOL[/img]


is ecu update the f37?

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No. They are referring to that ECM reflash that makes the computer fully OBDII compatible, which DCX very nicely decided to NOT adhere to the standard when they were originally building it.

I mean, you would want someone OTHER than the untrained dealer monkey to ever work on your new car? The very idea is absurd!


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loric wrote:
From the Scangauge site:

WORKS ON ALL EXCEPT: Jeep Liberty with the diesel engine does not report fuel use or trip functions and some of the gauges.
Unless the recall ECU software update has been completed.



http://www.scangauge.com/support/CompatibleVehicles.shtml

ECU software update??

Site also says that the SGII doesn't work on the Lotus Elise. Phwoar - am i glad i didn't buy that Lotus!... LOL[/img]


Those function mostly don't work aftrer the upgrade either as the SGII will not stay continously connected. When it takes a nap and most of the functions quit reporting then the MPG ect become meaningless. Then of course there is the issue with it disconnecting OD at 70 MPH.

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Thanks cowcatcher.

Even with all the troubles you (and everyone else) have had with the SGII, would you still recommend the unit?

If i bought a SGII, I don't think i'd be willing to leave it on whilst driving, essentially i'd only use it to check engine stats whilst stationary and check codes etc.

Would I be better off getting a laptop based interface?

Thanks!


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I had a CEL come on today accompanied by a severe lack of power, and I nearly bought a scanner at a Murray's Discount Auto. Lucky for me that they didn't have it. I had to prime the fuel filter head and there was an appreciable amount of air. The light went off after a few on/off cycles.

I was thinking about just getting the laptop interface as well. It would seem to me that you'd have an advantage with being able to use any software you wanted and would always have the option of upgrading to the most up to date stuff. I guess the thing that potentially scares me about a stand alone scanner is that at some point the company stops updating the software and such and it eventually becomes obsolete.

Just a thought, it would be nice to hear about some other peoples' preferences.


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While on the subject of laptop interfaces has anyone had any success with the ELM327 based OBDII interface. You can now pick up a Chinese "knock off" of this product for a only few bucks on Ebay. There is a huge user community out there using this interface and a number of freeware, shareware and commercial packages to support it but I have been unable to find any reference to it being successfully used on our CRD.


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You'll need CAN enhancement to collect significant data from the CRD other than basic OBDII temperatures and switch postions - if ELM has that, you're good to go - AutoEnginuity is the closest to a professioal $6500 scantool at less than 1/10th the price, and which covers DCJ, GM, and Ford - less if you opt for DCJ Enhanced, only

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Suncoast T\C, Transgo Tow'n'Go switch;
Cummins LP module, Fleetguard filter, Filterminder
2.5" Daystar f, OME r; Ranchos; K80767's, Al's lifted uppers
Rubicons, 2.55 Goodyears
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loric wrote:
Thanks cowcatcher.

Even with all the troubles you (and everyone else) have had with the SGII, would you still recommend the unit?

If i bought a SGII, I don't think i'd be willing to leave it on whilst driving, essentially i'd only use it to check engine stats whilst stationary and check codes etc.

Would I be better off getting a laptop based interface?

Thanks!


I might opt for a cheaper unit that could just read and clear the codes. Of course it will work on most other cars really well so I will keep it around and migrate it to my next rig post CRD. It is really a neat tool when it does work.

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I decided to give the SGII a go in the 'hope' that it'll work for us Aussies. Maybe we have a diff setup to you fellas in the US

I received my unit last night and was playing around with the setup.
For me, the SGII doesn't work when you let it do the 'automatic' protocol selection. I get no temp data, speedo, fuel data... only tacho and voltage.
When i 'forced' the SGII to go to 'iso' mode then all the temp data, speedo, fuel data popped up.

I took a quick drive last night (all highway) for about 35mins. had no problems at all.
Then this morning, on the commute to work (20mins all under 60kph), the SGII went to sleep (assuming this is the lockout described earlier).
I turned ign off, restarted and there was no fuel, temp speedo data!

I checked the protocol and the SGII has switched to 'KWPS"??
After 'forcing' it back to 'iso' the gauges seemed to work.

Bizzare! I'm gunna play with it some more coz i reckon it's unreal (when it works anyway)


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Oh, yeah, we like it - we just don't like it messing with the ABS computer - so far the buss contention results only in transmission faults, but who's to say when it'll start wreaking havoc with the brakes - good luck with it, and keep us informed

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GDE Hot '11; EDGE Trail switched
SEGR; Provent; Magnaflow;
Suncoast T\C, Transgo Tow'n'Go switch;
Cummins LP module, Fleetguard filter, Filterminder
2.5" Daystar f, OME r; Ranchos; K80767's, Al's lifted uppers
Rubicons, 2.55 Goodyears
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kdlewis1975 wrote:
Just a thought, it would be nice to hear about some other peoples' preferences.


I have a VAG-COM that is a computer base solution written for VW products that works well for obdii things on the kj and gives me various sensor readings.
With my mostly dead FCV and the blocked EGR I occassionaly, every week or so, get a cel so I got a stand alone scanner at Harbor Freight. It's their # 94169 and it cleared the code in the parking lot just fine. This past weekend I tried to check the "IM" or "ready" state and some how got the kj very confused and my key was not recognized so the imobalizer shut it down after two seconds :cry: So I disconnected then reconnecting the battery then cleared the codes and all was well again :roll:
Here's the scanner I got and it claims expanded CAN coverage is hy I chose this one.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/d ... ion=Search

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