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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:14 pm 
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You can also buy the Wrangler diesels in Australia, manufactured in Toledo. Currently available for about $39k Australian (or about $25k US). The CRDs are very popular over here both in the KJ and JK. My son drives a JK CRD Unlimited and it is a very capable vehicle, regularly pulls Toyotas out of bogged situations. No substitute for torque. The JK CRDs are delivered with the 460nm 2.8L Vm engine, which is an upgrade on the engine in the KJ series (different injectors I think). The KJ CRDs had 400nm of torque.

Ideal way to get one is to come to Australia on a holiday and pick it up from your dealer of choice and drive it around here. We have thousands of British and European backpackers that come to Australia every year and buy vehicles while they are here. Getting it shipped back to the US would have to be arranged and I don't know what your local regulations say about driving around in right hand drive vehicles - you would need to sort that out. It would certainly be a unique Wrangler in your world.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:40 pm 
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Glend wrote:
You can also buy the Wrangler diesels in Australia, manufactured in Toledo. Currently available for about $39k Australian (or about $25k US). The CRDs are very popular over here both in the KJ and JK. My son drives a JK CRD Unlimited and it is a very capable vehicle, regularly pulls Toyotas out of bogged situations. No substitute for torque. The JK CRDs are delivered with the 460nm 2.8L Vm engine, which is an upgrade on the engine in the KJ series (different injectors I think). The KJ CRDs had 400nm of torque.

Ideal way to get one is to come to Australia on a holiday and pick it up from your dealer of choice and drive it around here. We have thousands of British and European backpackers that come to Australia every year and buy vehicles while they are here. Getting it shipped back to the US would have to be arranged and I don't know what your local regulations say about driving around in right hand drive vehicles - you would need to sort that out. It would certainly be a unique Wrangler in your world.


The only way I have figured out to get a JK CRD would be to mount the body onto a diesel truck chassis that meets the Emission Certification. Plus you would have to do it in a state that would allow it to be done. When you were done, you would not have a JK CRD, but a JK body on a truck chassis. Since none of the 3/4 / 1 ton pickups have engines small enough to fit under the hood, you would have to get something like a step van chassis with a Maxforce 5 and hang the JK body on that.

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About 1-2 years ago I did see a CRD 2 door wrangler on the streets of Novi, MI. It had manufacturer plates on it.

Maybe Chrysler was thinking about offering it to states at that time. I wish they would.

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 Post subject: Naaaaa, That Would Make Sense.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:41 pm 
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About 1-2 years ago I did see a CRD 2 door wrangler on the streets of Novi, MI. It had manufacturer plates on it.

Maybe Chrysler was thinking about offering it to states at that time. I wish they would.


I keep thinking that if I buy a JK the owners of Jeep will offer a diesel.
Then I think EPA will step in and whack them with new regulations placing the effort at a loss.
These are tough times.

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 Post subject: Re: Emission laws are the killer of the deal
PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:17 pm 
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Glend wrote:
You can also buy the Wrangler diesels in Australia, manufactured in Toledo. Currently available for about $39k Australian (or about $25k US). The CRDs are very popular over here both in the KJ and JK. My son drives a JK CRD Unlimited and it is a very capable vehicle, regularly pulls Toyotas out of bogged situations. No substitute for torque. The JK CRDs are delivered with the 460nm 2.8L Vm engine, which is an upgrade on the engine in the KJ series (different injectors I think). The KJ CRDs had 400nm of torque.

Ideal way to get one is to come to Australia on a holiday and pick it up from your dealer of choice and drive it around here. We have thousands of British and European backpackers that come to Australia every year and buy vehicles while they are here. Getting it shipped back to the US would have to be arranged and I don't know what your local regulations say about driving around in right hand drive vehicles - you would need to sort that out. It would certainly be a unique Wrangler in your world.


The only way I have figured out to get a JK CRD would be to mount the body onto a diesel truck chassis that meets the Emission Certification. Plus you would have to do it in a state that would allow it to be done. When you were done, you would not have a JK CRD, but a JK body on a truck chassis. Since none of the 3/4 / 1 ton pickups have engines small enough to fit under the hood, you would have to get something like a step van chassis with a Maxforce 5 and hang the JK body on that.


The process is rather confusing and there are many loop holes to make the process even that much more difficult. I’m fortunate that I have two resident locations (New Mexico and Kansas) that doesn’t care what I drive and what engine I have. Remember, the federal law leaves a lot to each state to interpret.

First, you buy the CRD from overseas, then you ship it over to the United States, then you install it (just like they came from the factory) into a US model JK. Speaking from experience, Kansas and New Mexico do not inspect vehicles for emissions, nor do they open your hood and see what you got. In the State of California, all you have to do is pass a smog test. The new European 2.8 VM diesels are super clean (cleaner than the Jeep Liberty diesel here in the U.S.) and will pass most emission inspections in most states. You can also run biodiesel if you are worried about not passing the emissions in your state. If your state matches the engine code with the VIN, then you will have more problems but nothing that hasn’t been resolved many times over. However, this process will require a different set of procedures. Basically, there are literally dozens of people importing 2007-2009 European diesel engines and swapping them into the same U.S. make and model. If you need more information, please PM me.

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bigugly wrote:
About 1-2 years ago I did see a CRD 2 door wrangler on the streets of Novi, MI. It had manufacturer plates on it.

Maybe Chrysler was thinking about offering it to states at that time. I wish they would.


Those are just the European models as test vehicles. Must of the development and validation actually gets done in Auburn Hills...


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Somewhere in my stack of my Diesel Power Magazines, there is a quote from one of the head dudes from Chrysler (CEO maybe) that said that there are “NO” plans for a U.S. diesel KK or JK. I’m not saying it’s not possible, but based on that comment, it’s not looking good. Actually, I made my decision to follow through on the Europeans CRD swap after reading his comment and also after hearing from those who work for Chrysler at the higher chain of command.

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 Post subject: Yes Tony, Keep It Simple and Inexpensive
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[quote="tonycrd"]I could ship one out to you :D

Yeah, piezo injectors would be nice...but I am still satisfied with the way my little 2.5 behaves.[/quote

I would love to get an '09 but I am sure they are more complex and expensive to buy and repair.
Simple is best.
Going to run what we have until it dies.
We are moving from Maine to Az shortly, the money is all gone or soon will be.

I spent most of my money on wine, women and song, wasted the rest.

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