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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:14 am 
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Let us know if this fits - i like the idea!

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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:59 am 
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if 195 degree is too much they make a 180 degree stant #13518, or just ask for 1983 renault alliance thermostat the original was 195 with 180 degree option, if the stant is not available, many manufacturers made these even ac delco etc.


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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:58 pm 
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So today, my thermostat came in, and looks nothing like the photo. Stanton 13519, ordered it from summit.

*update*
talked with summit, they sent the wrong one. right box, wrong therm. should be here Tuesday. I'll have it in on Wednesday.


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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:02 pm 
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why summit ?my local NAPA said they can have it in a few hours fron the local warehouse


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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:08 pm 
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i tried my napa's they couldn't get it for a few days. so, went with summit for the price. Way it goes sometimes for an obscure part.


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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:09 pm 
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I paid $6 shipped from Ebay. They shipped it the same day I will get it by Friday. So 6 bucks I can't go wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:39 pm 
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great a $6.00 and 15 minute solution to a $100.00 and 2 hour problem. almost too good to be true. keep us posted. thanks


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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:13 am 
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Ordered mine - few weeks for delivery. But think it sounds like a good and cheap solution!

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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:20 pm 
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mine should be here today. Baring any crazy weather tomorrow morning, I should have it done.


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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:15 pm 
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I got mine Saturday. Which way do you put it in the hose's ? With probe towards the block or away from the block?

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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:17 pm 
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the probe has the wax pellet that should be facing the motor


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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:35 pm 
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i noticed some LOST members from other countries, they can try renault R5 1980's ,which was our Le car, our renault alliance i believe was sold in other countries as R17 ? but I am not too sure, many renaults had the 1.4 liter engine (the 1.7 also had the same thermostat) thermostat design was always in Hose-- this was late 1970's-1980's. I hope this helps who ever is looking for this.


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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:05 am 
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yes, it's diesel wrote:
the probe has the wax pellet that should be facing the motor


So.... facing the back of the Jeep? :juggle:

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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:28 am 
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yes , remove the hose at the thermostat housing, i would install thermostat with probe slightly protruding the hose,(if possible) so that it is closest to the motor as possible, using a new worm gear clamp clamp down on new thermostat, reinstall hose, top off any lost antifreeze. done the probe needs to be facing the motor and back of jeep when you are standing in front of the vehicle. PROBE MUST NOT BE FACING RADIATOR.


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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:03 pm 
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Got it done this morning.

Initial report: It works great! temp gauge was right where it needed to be, 12 o'clock as opposed to right at the 1/4 mark where it was. Heat was obnoxiously hot. I'll report back after a tank of fuel to see if it improved milage.

The How to:


Items Needed:
1. stant thermostat
2. gallon of coolant to replace what you are going to use
3. 2" hose clamp
4. a screw driver to tighten the clamp
5. pliers or a hose clamp tool.
6. 15 minutes.

Procedure
1. Open hood and remove engine cover
2. Locate radiator hose going to thermostat. It is on the passenger side of the engine, right underneath the intercooler tube.
3. Disconnect radiator hose clamp. I have a tool designed for this, makes it easy, you could use a large set of pliers as well.
4. Remove radiator hose from thermostat housing. You will lose a bit of coolant, but not much as long as you immediately tip up the hose.
5. Remove radiator hose clamp and set aside for future use.
6. Insert thermostat into radiator hose, with the bulb facing towards the engine, bulb slightly (1/4" or so) protruding. You can't get more, as the hose won't go back on the housing. To get the thermostat seated fully, I used a screw driver and a hammer and LIGHTLY tapped it into place. If your rad hoses are old, this will be more difficult.
7. Place the worm clamp on the hose, around the wide part of the thermostat and tighten. I used just a plain 2" hose clamp. You can get fancy if you want.
8. Put the rad hose clamp back on the hose but don't tighten it yet.
9. Place the rad hose back on the thermostat housing and tighten the rad hose clamp.
10. Top off the coolant with an approved make. I used zerex g-05.
11. Put the engine cover back on and fire up the jeep.
12. Take it for a spin and watch your temp come back to what it should be, with a smile on your face realizing you bested the OEM's price by over a hundred dollars! :)


*edit* after driving for a while, I saw the temp spike, then settle. So, I pulled the hose, drilled a quick 1/8" hole in the skirt and put it back together. That fixed the spike, without affecting the thermostat.


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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:45 pm 
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NICE !!! i will be doing mine soon, i decided to go with the 180 degree stant 13518, i thought this would be a safer try, opening sooner, in case of any issues of the thermostat being further away from the original placement, in the event there was an engineeering reason for this. We can all compare results soon. Did you drill any holes?? I assume not, since you did not discuss it. Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:22 pm 
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I added an edit into the post. Ended up putting a hole in it. Works like a champ. Drove for about 150 miles today, no issues.


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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:58 am 
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i wonder if the 180 degree will spike temps or not?? by the way-- i could not confirm yet a part number but this is a factory Mopar part we are dealing with, since when Renault owned AMC/JEEP, i called a dealer he could not look that far back due to he was never a dealer in the 80's, called another was a dodge dealer not jeep and said had a listing currently on backorder but still available, he was not too sure, but if anyone is near a Jeep dealer that was always a jeep dealer since the 1980's they will understand what we are doing and know this part. All jeep dealers were renault/ eagle/ jeep before renault sold it to chrysler. Also Winnebago dealers should have this as they had a model Lesharo i belive based on renault medalion chassis 2.2 liter same thermostat also.


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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:14 pm 
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Shoot i did Inline setup $70 plus thermo. This seems like easiest way, find thermo that will fit in hose near factory thermo. Drill hole in skirt thermo and install. This is what I was thinking of doing but since no one did it this way I went inline housing. Could we not source thermo where the end goes in stock unit.\



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 Post subject: Re: in hose thermostat -(no housing)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:09 pm 
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this thermostat i believe is as close to what you want to do as possible. i do not believe there is enough room on the housing to slide a thermostat in there, this just slides into the hose at the end. This part is borrowed from Jeeps history book when renault owned AMC Jeep. In my opinion this is the easiest, cheapest, cleanest way of doing it, if you do not want the stock unit. My recollection was these thermostats were very reliable. I used to buy and sell many Renaults and Jeeps and i cannot ever remember replacing a thermostat,- Headgaskets YES, transmissions YES but never a thermostat.


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